Day Running Lights

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Bluesmurff09

336 posts

170 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Hi,

My auto lights don't come on if the auto wipers are on and it's raining making the wipers go continuously let alone four times.

They do come on at just over 90 mph though!

My cars a Mark V Jetta.

cuprabob

14,928 posts

216 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Bluesmurff09 said:
Hi,

My auto lights don't come on if the auto wipers are on and it's raining making the wipers go continuously let alone four times.

They do come on at just over 90 mph though!

My cars a Mark V Jetta.
Both on my MKv R32 and Scirocco with both lights and wipers on AUTO if wipers detect rain and do 4 wipes continuously the lights come on. As you say also come on if above 90mph for more than around 10 secs

Bluesmurff09

336 posts

170 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Does the auto lights to come with the wipers after 4 cont wipes need switching on via the computer?


cuprabob

14,928 posts

216 months

Friday 5th August 2011
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Bluesmurff09 said:
Does the auto lights to come with the wipers after 4 cont wipes need switching on via the computer?
Don't know, both mine came out the box that way. To be honest I wouln't be concerned qabout it as it's a pain in the ass as after a few drops of rain it puts the lights on when they are not needed.

roosevelt

396 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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OK, so I have tried to de-activate DRL on o/h Polo (2011 reg) per the handbook instructions to no avail...
Next step is to remove a fuse, but which one as VW have not supplied a list of fuses in the handbook..
(and state that a fuse needs to be rmoved by a qualified workshop!)
ta

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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roosevelt said:
OK, so I have tried to de-activate DRL on o/h Polo (2011 reg) per the handbook instructions to no avail...
Next step is to remove a fuse, but which one as VW have not supplied a list of fuses in the handbook..
(and state that a fuse needs to be rmoved by a qualified workshop!)
ta
Bear in mind that if you turn them off somehow, you're modifying the car from its standard, EU type approved, spec. That's a massive can of worms if anything ever happens that could be relevant, such an accident where someone pulls out in front of her and claims they never saw her.

roosevelt

396 posts

263 months

Thursday 11th August 2011
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Deva Link said:
roosevelt said:
OK, so I have tried to de-activate DRL on o/h Polo (2011 reg) per the handbook instructions to no avail...
Next step is to remove a fuse, but which one as VW have not supplied a list of fuses in the handbook..
(and state that a fuse needs to be rmoved by a qualified workshop!)
ta
Bear in mind that if you turn them off somehow, you're modifying the car from its standard, EU type approved, spec. That's a massive can of worms if anything ever happens that could be relevant, such an accident where someone pulls out in front of her and claims they never saw her.
Or if I decided to put the sidelights on by myself (I can make decisions as I am male).... then am I laible for making the car less visible?
Also EU DRL is for new spec vehicles from Jan 2012, so would be changing from manufacturers (2011) spec but not from (Jan 2012 onwards) EU Spec...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Friday 12th August 2011
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roosevelt said:
Or if I decided to put the sidelights on by myself (I can make decisions as I am male).... then am I laible for making the car less visible?
I suppose the next thing that comes is cars where you can't drive with just the sidelights on. I think it was on a Capri that I had years ago where the switch was a linked double button for side & headlights and both came on no matter which button was pressed - you had to then press the headlamp button to turn them off and go back to sidelights.

roosevelt said:
Also EU DRL is for new spec vehicles from Jan 2012, so would be changing from manufacturers (2011) spec but not from (Jan 2012 onwards) EU Spec...
That's true as far as the law is concerned, but the car is Type Approved as produced. So changing anything modifies it, and your insurance company ought to be informed. Who knows, they may have taken this feature into account when assessing the premium for the vehicle?

fangio

989 posts

236 months

Saturday 3rd September 2011
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As far as I can find, Dozy Running Lights are a stupid Euro diktat. There is no legal requirement to USE them in this country...rolleyes

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

158 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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fangio said:
As far as I can find, Dozy Running Lights are a stupid Euro diktat. There is no legal requirement to USE them in this country...rolleyes
But aren't we all "europeans" these days and stuck with EU law?

Frik

13,544 posts

245 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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There's no law involved, it's merely a requirement for the manufacturer for homologation.

You don't have to use your airbags or ABS either but would you expend effort in trying to turn them off?

TDIfurby

1,997 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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I can deactivate DRLs if anyone can get to me in Exmouth. I agree it is annoying feature for use in the UK.

cuprabob

14,928 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Frik said:
There's no law involved, it's merely a requirement for the manufacturer for homologation.

You don't have to use your airbags or ABS either but would you expend effort in trying to turn them off?
Sadly. some people probably would turn off their ABS because it interferes with their stig like driving skills :-)


liner33

10,723 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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lots of people need to switch the passenger air bag off

shadwell davies

73 posts

187 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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Flippn` hate them.

In the same way as I dislike people who drive during the day with their "self important" fog lights on.

When it wet or poor viz. switch you headlights on simple.

Frik

13,544 posts

245 months

Sunday 4th September 2011
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liner33 said:
lots of people need to switch the passenger air bag off
I couldn't be bothered to add the caveat to my post but I knew someone on here would point it out. Doesn't really contradict my post does it?

liner33

10,723 posts

204 months

Monday 5th September 2011
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Frik said:
I couldn't be bothered to add the caveat to my post but I knew someone on here would point it out. Doesn't really contradict my post does it?
Well yes i personally turn off anything in the car i dont want thats stupid two press opening system and even Chris Moyles should he arrive on the radio .

Whether i would do a special trip to the dealer i'm not sure but asking for something to be changed at service or in my case just selecting off in a menu or on a switch is no biggie

Arctic Fox

47 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th September 2011
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European Directive 76/656/EEC, as amended by 2008/89/EC

The new daytime running lights law means that all new cars must be fitted with the lights from 7th February 2011. Reasoning is largely based around pedestrian safety and visibility. Its Europe wide.

So most manufacturers fit them early to new models so they do not have any backlog of unsold cars that would need dealers to retrofit them. They are mostly LED based, which consume less power than your sound system, its just the cost engineered models using the dipped beam.

So if your car was supplied before the date above there should be no legal reason that you shouldn't turn them off, however what the terms of your insurance state is an entirely different matter; I've heard of companies frowning upon the fit of winter tyres s a performance enhancement, which are proven to stop better in the cold!

Stoofa

958 posts

170 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Arctic Fox said:
European Directive 76/656/EEC, as amended by 2008/89/EC

The new daytime running lights law means that all new cars must be fitted with the lights from 7th February 2011. Reasoning is largely based around pedestrian safety and visibility. Its Europe wide.

So most manufacturers fit them early to new models so they do not have any backlog of unsold cars that would need dealers to retrofit them. They are mostly LED based, which consume less power than your sound system, its just the cost engineered models using the dipped beam.

So if your car was supplied before the date above there should be no legal reason that you shouldn't turn them off, however what the terms of your insurance state is an entirely different matter; I've heard of companies frowning upon the fit of winter tyres s a performance enhancement, which are proven to stop better in the cold!
Can you check your source again - it's cars which require new type approval that must have DRL's.
If a model was released before the date in question then it does not need DRL's.
It's only new models that require them.

You can quite happily buy a car without DRL's as long as the car had type approval before the directive start date.

liner33

10,723 posts

204 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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But type approval has little if anything of any relevance for the end user , its a standard for production thats all