Golf R engine blown

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Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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The reason I started this thread was to get a specialists / engineers perspective on potential other causes of an overspeed given the data provided. And there have been some very useful posts, for that I am grateful.

To me styles of driving, politics, pollution, lease pros and cons are irrelevant to this particular scenario but I guess in an open forum they will inevitably come up.

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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Don't remember claiming to be in a position to pay that either

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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I don't understand why you are so obsessed with this eBay engine.

I can talk through this a little slower for you.

2 year lease

Car has to go back

It has to have the remainder of the warranty

What part of sending it to an Indy or putting in an eBay engine will rectify the car to VW standards and leave it with 12 month warranty

Would you like it any slower?

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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Tom Cruiser said:
Have just noticed thread.Firstly,I know how you feel and sorry to hear you have the same issue as me. Had a manual golf r for 8 months when engine light came on. They fitted new ecu,changed various bits and didn't resolve problem so VW Germany said strip engine. Car was paid,no finance. After 2 months the garage,Lancaster,said VW Germany had noticed the car had been over revved twice and although they would not charge me to date,they wanted the loan car back and estimate of £3000 plus vat to fit new cam,rebuild. They quoted two dates where I was in UK and could have been in the car and two revs of 8600 and 7450.I reluctantly settled on £2500 including VAT after a further 4 months. Basically Jardine motor Group,Lancaster screwed me. They had serviced my Ferraris and Porsches for 35 years before that but it mattered little. I have since ordered many cars but personally would avoid Jardine. If you look at the Facebook feedback for Hatfield Lancaster VW you will see why. Good luck and if there's anything I can do,let me know.
Now this is interesting! I'm surprised 8600 didn't take out your engine then as it apparently has to mine.

I'm really interested to hear anymore you can offer on this, even private message if you would rather

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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I am starting to wonder,

Likewise I think I would have felt 8500 as you would have!

Hopefully just enabled the email thingy thanks

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
Beanie said:
Im not in a position to buy the car and extend the lease,

I have taken a lot if the advice and acting on some of it thank you.

Where would you like your custard?
Can you verify why not?
The 'why' is irrelevant

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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No I don't need it after the 2 years.

But did I damage it? That's the question.

Seem to have uncovered another 1 or 2 'overspeeds' so far. If there's that many then there's bound to be more.

Quite convenient for vw if there's an engine malfunction the ECU pops up an 'overspeed' result

It's not as if vw are trustworthy, they are full of scandal and deceit

Edited by Beanie on Sunday 8th October 20:10

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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birdcage said:
I thought I had buzzed the gears once on my GT3 RS. The dealer took it back to his workshop and called me and said it was all fine and here's your money.

I was however prepared as I thought I had over revved it once.

You have actually over revved and the the thread going more in favor of the diagnostics, insurance companies being bullies and aliens route is more acceptable.

No disrespect but you broke if. You have been honest but that's not a hedge. You broke it
Got to be honest, I couldn't make any sense of that other than the fact you want us to know you have a GT3 RS.... fact noted

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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Alucidnation said:
Beanie said:
It's not as if vw are trustworthy, they are full of scandal and deceit

Edited by Beanie on Sunday 8th October 20:10
But you leased one of their products anyway.
Yes I did, mistakenly thought leasing was better than buying one of their products again, didn't see this coming.


Edited by Beanie on Sunday 8th October 20:50

Beanie

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Sunday 8th October 2017
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Next time I'll stick to auto smile

It's an interesting question, one I have been thinking about alot

Beanie

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Monday 9th October 2017
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No I don't think I did it, as others haven't yet had the suprise of an overspeed on the ecu with engine problems.

I think it's a convenient code on the ecu for vw

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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CoolHands said:
I doubt if you could get it into 1st from 70mph, IMO it would baulk.
Im pretty sure of this too

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Blaster72 said:
CoolHands said:
I doubt if you could get it into 1st from 70mph, IMO it would baulk.
Exactly my thoughts, something doesn't add up. Is there really no other way the over-rev can be triggered to record in the ECU?
My question from day 1!

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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So also be coincidence I managed to select the gear that gave the exact max revs that it then failed at?

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Anyone know what an R will do in 2nd?

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Obviously, just curiosity

It would give me a better understanding of if the engine should have failed in 2nd if that's the case



Edited by Beanie on Tuesday 10th October 07:50

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Welshbeef said:
RacingGreen0001 said:
I'm surprised that modern day engines don't have any sort of protective measure that prohibits downshifts that could damage the engine e.g. like in this case.
Probably due to the fact muppetry of such a user error is such a minuscule % of failure & that they then miss out on the work and revenue to carry out the corrective works simply isn't worth the cost to develop it.
Or the fact something went inside, which resulted in high speed rpm, which the ecu logged as such, get out of jail free for vw

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Downshifting to any gear might have just been all it need for a worn part to finally give up. Let's not forget the overspeed is only a sensor. Strange how such a terrible overspeed did no visible damage. Not a drop of oil.

Beanie

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Tuesday 10th October 2017
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We are in discussions

Beanie

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101 months

Wednesday 11th October 2017
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New engine is in

Clutch and turbo survived

Waiting on news of gearbox