Production start and VIN numbers

[ChrisandDeb]

MikeE said:

Does anyone have pictures of these 2 Griffs at the 1991 motorshow?

Was the 3rd one Candy Apple Red or was that the 1992 motorshow?

I have these photos I took at the 1991 show where we orderd our car. Have one of the interior of the dark grey one too

[ChrisandDeb]

[lancepar]

Nice wheels are they Original OZ rims?
I have 704 presently on Estorils but will be fitted with Amils in the near future.
Cheers

[ChrisandDeb]

lancepar said:

Nice wheels are they Original OZ rims?
I have 704 presently on Estorils but will be fitted with Amils in the near future.
Cheers

Yes split rim OZs were an option. We preferred the wheels on the Green show car but they weren't available to spec so had the Amils. After it was rebuilt by the factory in 1998 they fitted 2 Amils and 2 Camille Gottis so Chris bought a full set of 2nd hand Amils which he plans to refurb and change over to at some point.

[ChrisandDeb]

I'm pretty sure the yellow Griff was the 1990 Birmingham show car and at the 1991 Earls Court show the 3 Griffs were dark grey, green and candy apple red.

[lancepar]

ChrisandDeb said:

lancepar said:

Nice wheels are they Original OZ rims?
I have 704 presently on Estorils but will be fitted with Amils in the near future.
Cheers

Yes split rim OZs were an option. We preferred the wheels on the Green show car but they weren't available to spec so had the Amils. After it was rebuilt by the factory in 1998 they fitted 2 Amils and 2 Camille Gottis so Chris bought a full set of 2nd hand Amils which he plans to refurb and change over to at some point.

Haha,
My post was for Mat but no matter all good stuff.

[MikeE]

ChrisandDeb said:

MikeE said:

Does anyone have pictures of these 2 Griffs at the 1991 motorshow?

Was the 3rd one Candy Apple Red or was that the 1992 motorshow?

I have these photos I took at the 1991 show where we orderd our car. Have one of the interior of the dark grey one too

Debbie can you post the other pics you have of the 91 show cars, particularly the grey show car, thanks

[e42]

Ruby red mica 4.3, registered 22/12/92, but VIN ends 11087!!

Dom

[MikeE]

e42 said:

Ruby red mica 4.3, registered 22/12/92, but VIN ends 11087!!

Dom

TVR's new year started in September, so presumably yours was the 87th TVR built since the start of the new year (Sept 1992)?




First 3 letters are for TVR
D = drophead
Next 2 characters are type - ie SE
Next number is model - ie 4 = 400
P = petrol
Next number is random security number
Next letter is the build year (A=1980 B = 1981 and so on - i is not used) - build years started in September for the October Motorshow apparently - so you can have a 1990 registered car on a 1991 build year.
Next letter is the build month (A=Jan B=Feb and so on - i is not used)
Next 3 numbers are believed to be standard/random of no significance..
Final 3 numbers shows the car number - ie 14th car built from the 1991 build year.

[MikeE]

MikeE said:

e42 said:

Ruby red mica 4.3, registered 22/12/92, but VIN ends 11087!!

Dom

TVR's new year started in September, so presumably yours was the 87th TVR built since the start of the new year (Sept 1992)?




First 3 letters are for TVR
D = drophead
Next 2 characters are type - ie SE
Next number is model - ie 4 = 400
P = petrol
Next number is random security number
Next letter is the build year (A=1980 B = 1981 and so on - i is not used) - build years started in September for the October Motorshow apparently - so you can have a 1990 registered car on a 1991 build year.
Next letter is the build month (A=Jan B=Feb and so on - i is not used)
Next 3 numbers are believed to be standard/random of no significance..
Final 3 numbers shows the car number - ie 14th car built from the 1991 build year.

Mine is .....NA011756 so January 1992 build date and 756th TVR since September 1991

[e42]

Ah thanks, that makes sense!

Dom

[old No 1]

ChrisandDeb said:

I'm pretty sure the yellow Griff was the 1990 Birmingham show car and at the 1991 Earls Court show the 3 Griffs were dark grey, green and candy apple red.

My old one ( the pearl yellow show car) was bought by me in May 92 reg J768 CNW and it was shown at the 91 NEC show.
After the show the interior was redone by the factory and the carbon dash and yellow dials were changed to the 'production' spec and shipped off to HHC for use as a demo car in early 92. I bought it with 2000miles and it had the plain ball gear knob (which the linkage snapped on the test drive) and no working vents which Nigel at HHC said would all be sorted as it was booked for a factory revisit to sort all that out as it had been rushed out to demo.

From what I can remember and annoyingly I cant find the pics to confirm is the red and BRG ones were also on the stand with the pearl yellow in the middle.
The 1990 Griff concept had door handles as per S model and IIRC it was based on an S/V8S chassis whereas it then taken back and the chassis was based more on the Tuscan racer spec. I do have a Griff concept factory brochure that I will get out the loft and scan in. It was in a nice deep blue colour.

[MikeE]

old No 1 said:

ChrisandDeb said:

I'm pretty sure the yellow Griff was the 1990 Birmingham show car and at the 1991 Earls Court show the 3 Griffs were dark grey, green and candy apple red.

My old one ( the pearl yellow show car) was bought by me in May 92 reg J768 CNW and it was shown at the 91 NEC show.
After the show the interior was redone by the factory and the carbon dash and yellow dials were changed to the 'production' spec and shipped off to HHC for use as a demo car in early 92. I bought it with 2000miles and it had the plain ball gear knob (which the linkage snapped on the test drive) and no working vents which Nigel at HHC said would all be sorted as it was booked for a factory revisit to sort all that out as it had been rushed out to demo.

From what I can remember and annoyingly I cant find the pics to confirm is the red and BRG ones were also on the stand with the pearl yellow in the middle.
The 1990 Griff concept had door handles as per S model and IIRC it was based on an S/V8S chassis whereas it then taken back and the chassis was based more on the Tuscan racer spec. I do have a Griff concept factory brochure that I will get out the loft and scan in. It was in a nice deep blue colour.

I'm now really confused!

Earlier on in this thread there was talk of the 91 motorshow having three Griffs on the stand, a Candy Red, a BRG and a Grey (speculated to be the 1992 press car but it's not the same car).

Then Debbie posts a picture of both the Red car and a Green car (not BRG) which to confuse even more has AJP on the plate well before AJP was mentioned as the new Melling V8 for the Cerbera?!?!

Now we have your Yellow car (I don't doubt you as my understanding was there was a yellow car on the stand).

So is the BRG and Grey Griffs mentioned previously actually the Green one Debbie has posted?

[geeman237]

old No 1 said:

My old one ( the pearl yellow show car) was bought by me in May 92 reg J768 CNW and it was shown at the 91 NEC show.
After the show the interior was redone by the factory and the carbon dash and yellow dials were changed to the 'production' spec and shipped off to HHC for use as a demo car in early 92. I bought it with 2000miles and it had the plain ball gear knob (which the linkage snapped on the test drive) and no working vents which Nigel at HHC said would all be sorted as it was booked for a factory revisit to sort all that out as it had been rushed out to demo.

From what I can remember and annoyingly I cant find the pics to confirm is the red and BRG ones were also on the stand with the pearl yellow in the middle.
The 1990 Griff concept had door handles as per S model and IIRC it was based on an S/V8S chassis whereas it then taken back and the chassis was based more on the Tuscan racer spec. I do have a Griff concept factory brochure that I will get out the loft and scan in. It was in a nice deep blue colour.

Is this your old yellow Griffith? This is now for sale at a dealer in Florida. Previous to being at this dealer I believe it was owned by a TVR collector in Canada. He had it for sale for months once it became US legal to import. Its been with this dealer for sometime too.
https://www.wirewheel.com/inventory/available/1992...

[FlipFlopGriff]

The green one looks ocean haze to me?

This is the prototype, I think registered from memory F xxx ACK.



Was cut up and destroyed.
FFG

[old No 1]

geeman237 said:

Is this your old yellow Griffith? This is now for sale at a dealer in Florida. Previous to being at this dealer I believe it was owned by a TVR collector in Canada. He had it for sale for months once it became US legal to import. Its been with this dealer for sometime too.
https://www.wirewheel.com/inventory/available/1992...

Wow its not mine as mine had a green leather interior with grey wilton carpets. I was told by TVR that mine was one of three pearl yellow ones made 2 grey and my green interior. I think the paint caused problems as it was a Nissan colour and 2 stage, but then they started using the colour changing paint that Nissan used so they didn't learn the lesson or maybe they learnt how to apply it! Mine had to be resprayed due to a chip on the lower edge of the boot opening they couldn't match at Harrogate...

I will dig out the dusty books and try and get them posted. Just wish I could find the pics!

Mine was bought by Tweety on here and then has been sold on but would live to find out who has it and go see it again.

[MikeE]

Found this which confirms that the AJP was launched at the 1992 motor show along with the Chimaera. So the picture of the green Griffith below shows both the AJP number plate and I think a Chimaera behind it so this picture can not be the 1991 show.



I presume then the 1991 show was indeed Candy red, BRG/Grey and yellow

Edited by MikeE on Thursday 13th February 15:41

[ChrisandDeb]

OK we have been through our vast collection of TVR photos (and other makes). We stand corrected (it was a while ago) the photos I previously posted were indeed from the 1992 motor show. They were Formula Red (red sprayed over a white base) and a green AJP Griffith (not sure what Green but not Ocean Haze). The 1991 cars were Candy Apple Red, Cooper Green we think rather than BRG and Pearl Yellow.

[ChrisandDeb]

I can't upload the images here as keep getting error 522.

[lancepar]

Thumbsnap is having a bad time, see PH Website feedback.

Waiting for the Management to sort it.