Range Rovers becoming uninsurable in London?
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NomduJour said:
That car is already unlocked when the clip starts, so maybe programming the key is easy but they still have to get it open to do so, smashing a window would set the alarm off I assume....Is that the Activity Key he's using?
My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
Cold said:
Is that the Activity Key he's using?
My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
I have always suggested simply putting a key operated lock, in line, on the OBD port. One which you could operate with the emergency key.My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
M
camel_landy said:
Cold said:
Is that the Activity Key he's using?
My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
I have always suggested simply putting a key operated lock, in line, on the OBD port. One which you could operate with the emergency key.My car has a device fitted to the canbus that prevents any further keys from being programmed. The files just aren't available. I've also relocated the OBD2 socket with a dummy (but live) socket back in the original housing. Very easy to do with an OBD2 "Y" lead.
Not infallible at all, but definitely a delaying tactic.
M
lornemalvo said:
It seems Lexus RX thefts are also rife (canbus thefts), bringing the same insurance premium problems. With all the resources available to car manufacturers, it's unforgiveable that it's this easy.
The trouble is buyers don’t care.Those buyers become users, of course, who suddenly do care. But too late.
swisstoni said:
lornemalvo said:
It seems Lexus RX thefts are also rife (canbus thefts), bringing the same insurance premium problems. With all the resources available to car manufacturers, it's unforgiveable that it's this easy.
The trouble is buyers don’t care.Those buyers become users, of course, who suddenly do care. But too late.
I wasn’t sure if insurance for new Defenders was being affected by the same issues as Range Rovers, I quite fancy one as a daily driver.
I just got an insurance quote for a new 90, I live in Vauxhall. Cheapest quote on go compare was more than double what I pay for my 992 GT3 insurance so that”s the end of that.
I remember a few years ago VW made AEB standard on Golf’s which lowered their insurance rating and therefore the their cost of ownership. JLR need to acknowledge the issues and do something to address them before I’ll be able to buy one of their products.
I just got an insurance quote for a new 90, I live in Vauxhall. Cheapest quote on go compare was more than double what I pay for my 992 GT3 insurance so that”s the end of that.
I remember a few years ago VW made AEB standard on Golf’s which lowered their insurance rating and therefore the their cost of ownership. JLR need to acknowledge the issues and do something to address them before I’ll be able to buy one of their products.
paralla said:
JLR need to acknowledge the issues and do something to address them before I’ll be able to buy one of their products.
And as if by magic today…..https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/jlr-bo...
craigjm said:
paralla said:
JLR need to acknowledge the issues and do something to address them before I’ll be able to buy one of their products.
And as if by magic today…..https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/jlr-bo...
Having had an attempted theft of mine in London, assuming they give a free update at dealers for the BCM I am happy with that as a practical solution.
Though I highly doubt a subsequent decrease in prices for insurance, more like a flattening of the trajectory. A bit like the 60mph limit for air quality on the M1 won't magically go back to 70 once everyone is in EVs.
Though I highly doubt a subsequent decrease in prices for insurance, more like a flattening of the trajectory. A bit like the 60mph limit for air quality on the M1 won't magically go back to 70 once everyone is in EVs.
SmithCorona said:
Having had an attempted theft of mine in London, assuming they give a free update at dealers for the BCM I am happy with that as a practical solution.
Though I highly doubt a subsequent decrease in prices for insurance, more like a flattening of the trajectory. A bit like the 60mph limit for air quality on the M1 won't magically go back to 70 once everyone is in EVs.
Indeed. I should have added a third requirement. Though I highly doubt a subsequent decrease in prices for insurance, more like a flattening of the trajectory. A bit like the 60mph limit for air quality on the M1 won't magically go back to 70 once everyone is in EVs.
- That a decrease in theft rates as a result of improved security is reflected by lower insurance premiums.
FrankAbagnale said:
I bought a 2019 Velar last week and it was £1300 for the year with a £1000 excess in Cheltenham. If it wasn’t for that one quote, next cheapest was £1750 and after that astronomical money.
I have a place in London too, and using that address it was borderline uninsurable.
We have a place near Cheltenham as well and my insurance is exactly 3x as expensive in London now. I don't really have a choice but to use the London address though unfortunately as the cars are there most of the timeI have a place in London too, and using that address it was borderline uninsurable.
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