New Discovery - 4 or 6 cylinders ?

[HarryW]

Are you absolutely sure it's not EU6 compliant? Seems a bit strange for a new 2017 model to not be.

[andyr]

Salesman said that to me today.

The V6 engine is quite old, but the 4 pot is new.

But the only difference between Eu5 and EU6 is the nitrogen - and AdBlue sorts that out. (From what I've read in the links I've added)

So I dont see why that cant be added - obviously AdBlue is nothing to do with the engine itself.

I've emailed the dealer to find out.

[CornishRob]

I can't believe the TD6 is EU5.

The last 3.0l D4 is EU6, so can't believe LR have gone backwards with the newest model.

Also if that's the case and they actually have gone backwards, why didn't they just use the 3.0l twin turbo that's in the D4, RRS and FFRR??

[HarryW]

andyr said:

Salesman said that to me today.

The V6 engine is quite old, but the 4 pot is new.

But the only difference between Eu5 and EU6 is the nitrogen - and AdBlue sorts that out. (From what I've read in the links I've added)

So I dont see why that cant be added - obviously AdBlue is nothing to do with the engine itself.

I've emailed the dealer to find out.

I suspect/hope he's got it wrong.

[A.J.M]

HarryW said:

A.J.M said:

We spoke to the guy at the dealer launch.

£1500 extra for the 6 cylinder upfront.
£5000 better resale value was their prediction.

Get the 6

Is that going to be offset by through life costs though in consumption, low tax etc and it also assumes that say in 3-5 years time a larger engined diesel tax does not significantly change and make the bigger older tech 6 pot less desirable...

I doubt that ved over 3-5 years and fuel use will break that £3500 difference.
The larger engine will give better towing, likely be the nicer drive and have the power to make it a decent car.

I've driven the 2.0 engine in a new DS, it's a nice engine, but i don't think a 2.0 in a D5 is going to be as frugal as hoped, it may need flogged a bit to get going.

If i was in the market, 6 cylinder for me.

[stain]

However good a 4 pot is I still feel they sound primitive and don't suit the nature of bigger, more luxurious cars. I'd get the 6.

[NomduJour]

Dealers are useless, it is (and has to be) Euro 6 compliant.

[andyr]

They've just replied to my email and said it takes AdBlue - which would make me think it has to be EU6 also. I've asked for a definitive answer.

I put down a deposit on the TD6 yesterday...arrives in April - so my decision is made whatever the answer.

[NomduJour]

It couldn't be type approved or sold if it wasn't Euro 6 compliant. Not sure how a dealer couldn't know this.

[HarryW]

Quick query is the D5 still annual servicing? Do they do the servicing packs, if how much do LR charge...

[andyr]

OK, dealer now saying its EU6. Sorry I passed on duff info.

So i think its a no brainer...no point in buying the 4 pot unless you are going for a low/entry spec.

[andyr]

Hi Harry

Regarding the pack...its not decided yet apparently, but on its way according to my dealer. I think its either 599 or 699 for 3 years.

TD6 service interval is 16k according to this - http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/specs/detail/?v=M12704...

[Myles Peraua]

I actually wonder whether, and it's not directly related to the OP's choice of car, but

MrBarry123 said:

I would have thought it's madness for anyone to buy a ……….. diesel now if they're looking not to take a smack on the residual value of the car?

There is so much talk of diesel being the devil's poison, of scrappage schemes to get diesels off the road, of ULEZ zones, etc, that it kinda puts me off buying anything diesel. Will an EU6 diesel be allowed in the (U)LEZ zones at the same cost as a petrol car?

[HarryW]

andyr said:

Hi Harry

Regarding the pack...its not decided yet apparently, but on its way according to my dealer. I think its either 599 or 699 for 3 years.

TD6 service interval is 16k according to this - http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/specs/detail/?v=M12704...

The D4 is £699 for 5 years and 50000 miles including Adblue top ups. I'd expect the same.
the DS 4 pot is £499 for the same plan....

Edited by HarryW on Friday 24th February 16:04

[andyr]

Hi Myles...yes, according to the links I posted earlier in the thread.

[ColonelKurtz]

Oh Guys... I've ordered the 4cyl as it is only a few bhp down and 100nm less. I thought, as it's a new engine, it would be worth trying. I have an XF-S at the moment with the Lion 3.0 diesel and l love the engine.

Surely the 4 cyl can't be that off the 3.0.....or have I ordered the wrong engine.....

[hilly10]

ColonelKurtz said:

Oh Guys... I've ordered the 4cyl as it is only a few bhp down and 100nm less. I thought, as it's a new engine, it would be worth trying. I have an XF-S at the moment with the Lion 3.0 diesel and l love the engine.

Surely the 4 cyl can't be that off the 3.0.....or have I ordered the wrong engine.....

Power delivery the 4 will never match the 6. I think you will have to work the 4 a lot harder.

[ColonelKurtz]

hilly10 said:

Power delivery the 4 will never match the 6. I think you will have to work the 4 a lot harder.

I'm picking it up on 29/3 so will feedback on how it goes. My fingers are crossed.

[ColonelKurtz]

Oh Guys... I've ordered the 4cyl as it is only a few bhp down and 100nm less. I thought, as it's a new engine, it would be worth trying. I have an XF-S at the moment with the Lion 3.0 diesel and l love the engine.

Surely the 4 cyl can't be that off the 3.0.....or have I ordered the wrong engine.....

[andyr]

In the HSE spec, I think the price difference is only 1500 pounds between 4 and 6 cylinders.

I think resale will be better with the 6 pot, and the engine more suits the luxury style of the new car. And in the real world, I dont believe the 4 cylinder economy figures with such a large car.

Just my 2 cents worth.