Discovery 4 or 5?

[soupdragon1]

Tomgc61 said:

Which is a better buy? I know these are very different but it seems discovery 4's on the way up are now meeting very new RR's on the way down

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311214...

or

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308080...

Pretty crazy. Are the lofty D4 prices based on sentiment of a car no longer being built, and a future classic?

Surely the D5 is a technical improvement? (I know the styling is debatable from a D5 POV) Maybe it's the look?

[camel_landy]

Tomgc61 said:

Which is a better buy? I know these are very different but it seems discovery 4's on the way up are now meeting very new RR's on the way down

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311214...

or

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308080...

Depends what you want to use it for:

If you're about town, the Range Rover will be fine whilst on battery power but I don't rate the chances of the 2.0 on a decent journey. The D4 is a cracking car but starting to get on a bit now.

Forced to choose between those, I'd be going for the D4. However...

I'm personally not a fan of the D5 looks either but I'd still have a D5 over the D4 as there have been some significant advances between the two. Remember, the underpinnings of the D4 are pretty much the same as the D3... Which was launched in 2004.

M

[bakerstreet]

Tomgc61 said:

Which is a better buy? I know these are very different but it seems discovery 4's on the way up are now meeting very new RR's on the way down

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311214...

or

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308080...

No way would I spend £35k on a D4. The underpinnings of that car are nearly 20 years old and at best its a 30mpg car and its rare you will get that. Also £35k will get you a lot more in the Range Rover Sport (Always the cheapest of the big RRs)

The D4 is very well regarded in LR circles, but the D5 is just a better car in every way even if you don't like the looks and the market will eventually adjust to that.

[Triumph Man]

bakerstreet said:

Tomgc61 said:

Which is a better buy? I know these are very different but it seems discovery 4's on the way up are now meeting very new RR's on the way down

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202311214...

or

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202308080...

No way would I spend £35k on a D4. The underpinnings of that car are nearly 20 years old and at best its a 30mpg car and its rare you will get that. Also £35k will get you a lot more in the Range Rover Sport (Always the cheapest of the big RRs)

The D4 is very well regarded in LR circles, but the D5 is just a better car in every way even if you don't like the looks and the market will eventually adjust to that.

I get 26mpg in my 2011 (6 spd) D4 - on a long run at about 65mph I can get about 33mpg. Official combined quoted is 30.1mpg which is rubbish. Only people who drive like old women will get that (and then you get into the problems of them getting sooted up)

[orbit123]

In this place too. Have had D3 then D4 since 2006 until now. My 2012 D4 is needing changed. I've never found it so hard to pick a replacement car. I've found myself scouring for ultra low mileage D4!

Partly as I love the D4 function and looks but feels like in a state of flux too with the segment it sits in. It's such an expensive purchase and I'd tend to buy to keep for 7 or 8 years. I live properly in the country and do face snow / floods etc. The Discovery has been great car for all situations plus 7 seats.

D5 - obvious choice and looks have grown on me.
Can get an almost new 3.0 for circa £60k.
The 2.0 engine does seem like a widely repeated issue and almost routine that LR are swapping.
2025/2026 replacement incoming which promises a complete revamp.

Defender - seems super expensive for a 7 seat one. I do quite like them but feels like often trying too hard!

INEOS - Great fit but pedal footrest issue is a problem for me. Also anyone I've mentioned too immediately says "the Brexit car?"!

Landcruiser - new one now coming and it looks like a positive huge change. Will be 2025/2026 though to get one?

XC90 - sort of end of life now with the EX90? EX90 also looks to be a massive step forward (and fully electric too). 2025/2026 to get one best case.

I do like RRS and FFRR but RRS isn't as practical and the new FFRR is massive. Also both too expensive.

[bakerstreet]

orbit123 said:

In this place too. Have had D3 then D4 since 2006 until now. My 2012 D4 is needing changed. I've never found it so hard to pick a replacement car. I've found myself scouring for ultra low mileage D4!

Partly as I love the D4 function and looks but feels like in a state of flux too with the segment it sits in. It's such an expensive purchase and I'd tend to buy to keep for 7 or 8 years. I live properly in the country and do face snow / floods etc. The Discovery has been great car for all situations plus 7 seats.

D5 - obvious choice and looks have grown on me.
Can get an almost new 3.0 for circa £60k.
The 2.0 engine does seem like a widely repeated issue and almost routine that LR are swapping.
2025/2026 replacement incoming which promises a complete revamp.

Defender - seems super expensive for a 7 seat one. I do quite like them but feels like often trying too hard!

INEOS - Great fit but pedal footrest issue is a problem for me. Also anyone I've mentioned too immediately says "the Brexit car?"!

Landcruiser - new one now coming and it looks like a positive huge change. Will be 2025/2026 though to get one?

XC90 - sort of end of life now with the EX90? EX90 also looks to be a massive step forward (and fully electric too). 2025/2026 to get one best case.

I do like RRS and FFRR but RRS isn't as practical and the new FFRR is massive. Also both too expensive.

No way would I touch the 2.0d Ingenium engine. Another LR failure.

On Friday night, I walked away from a D5 following test drive and an incredibly uncomfortable passenger seat. It just feels like its lost that LR magic and the driving position and view down that bonnet just aren't as good as what you got in the D4 and the L322. I also watched the infotainment fall over when the when it started up. Very embarrassing. Its such a shame as I really wanted to love that car and drive home in it, but in the end it just wasn't to be and after years of loving LRs, I think I have come to the end of the road. Porsche this time round.

The RR hybrid is tempting, but they are so expensive and the numbers just don't stack up for me. The management of the EV part looks a bit of a faff as well. The 3.0SDV6 isn't worth the risk because of the all the well known issues with that engine. The 3.0 Supercharged is expensive and rare, so thats out as well.

This D5 was a rare 2.0 petrol car and the bill that the owner had to pay for camchain replacement due to excessive vibration....£4400 which LR wouldn't cover under warranty. The alternator alone was also £585! Still gutted I didn't like it but I know OH would have hated that seat. Says a lot about just how good the L322 is.

[norscot]

orbit123 said:

Partly as I love the D4 function and looks but feels like in a state of flux too with the segment it sits in. It's such an expensive purchase and I'd tend to buy to keep for 7 or 8 years. I live properly in the country and do face snow / floods etc. The Discovery has been great car for all situations plus 7 seats.

D5 - obvious choice and looks have grown on me.
Can get an almost new 3.0 for circa £60k.
The 2.0 engine does seem like a widely repeated issue and almost routine that LR are swapping.
2025/2026 replacement incoming which promises a complete revamp.

The D300 six cylinder engine in the Discovery 5 is a lovely thing. Effortless and smooth. If you need seven seats there are not that many alternatives, and in my opinion none that offer the all round capability and versatility of the D5. Your location sounds like almost the ideal scenario the D5 is designed to deal with!

With the weather this week, I am finding it ideal: cold, snow, wind, standing water, and the D5 just cruises through it all with the occupants totally isolated from it all in complete comfort.