How much should a 2015 Land Mark Defender cost?

How much should a 2015 Land Mark Defender cost?

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findtomdotcom

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I am about to buy a 2015 Land Rover Landmark Defender 90 TDi. It’s covered 11000 miles so it’s very low mileage 1 owner and is in like new condition. However, it’s very expensive.

What is the PH view on how much a 2015 Defender should cost? I’m struggling to put a price on how much these “should” cost and if I’m making a mistake.





Edited by findtomdotcom on Tuesday 26th July 21:21

findtomdotcom

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Monday 25th July 2022
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£51500... So I thought £30k seemed ok, but having looked at a few low milage examples of high spec 90s they do seem to be around the £45k/£50k mark?


findtomdotcom

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All great points. I have looked at auctions and tried to get a feel. My conclusion is that a 2015 low milage Defender seems to keep it's value quite well. Not sure it's £50k but probably not far off. But again I welcome your thoughts.

findtomdotcom

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Tuesday 26th July 2022
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Thanks Sma, really useful info. I like to buy the very best version of a car I can find, this seems to fit the bill. But need to get the price down a little I think.


findtomdotcom

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Tuesday 23rd August 2022
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Quick update, I bought the Defender and have had a few small mods done. Lot’s of extra security, a double din Apple CarPlay head unit, new speakers, cruise control (this is a game changer) and new larger wheels later this week. The 235 std wheels are a bit odd looking, so new wider rubber is inbound.

It’s a really clean and like new Defender, so very happy with it. I looked a lot in the end, this was the best one by far. I am keen to keep it looking stock even if I tweak just a few things like adding larger (wider) wheels…

Thanks for the advice.

Tom

findtomdotcom

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Wednesday 24th August 2022
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18” but the same Sawtooth alloys.

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Thursday 25th August 2022
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300bhp/ton said:
18's on a Defender will ride comparatively ste. Only those looking for bling and the look at me brigade should apply.
What a rude and inaccurate thing to say. And from Camero driver too….

Defenders aren’t known for fantastic ride in the first place. However, I would argue the handling is markedly better. I kept exactly the same circumference and just added width with a lower profile. Not only do the aesthetics work better (to my eye) but it now corners better on the road.

findtomdotcom

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Friday 26th August 2022
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Maybe that’s where I am going wrong? Should have gone for some 23’ American style mirror wheels with spinners? I can’t believe I missed that. I mean Escalades look so good….

So, see below for some before and after photos. I think the 18”s are a really subtle upgrade, add that to what I perceive as an improvement in handling and it’s a no brainier. Next on the list is a visit to Twisted for their sports suspension and stage 3/4 engine tune.

Before: 16” Sawtooth Alloy


After: 18 “ Sawtooth Alloy



Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 26th August 10:05

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Friday 26th August 2022
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And have a dog shot because, I love my dogs and they are inside the Defender…


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Friday 26th August 2022
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Yes, it really is, good shout. I have the Optimil hinges but I agree and have ordered a proper door/wheel hanger thing.

For reference, I had to add 30mm wheel spacers to the hubs (see photo) and shims to the door hanger to get the wheels and tyres (285/60/R18) to fit correctly.

I am under no illusion that off-road the skinny tyres would probably work better. But where we live in Greece the road is gravel so this setup gives a bit of stance (but not too much) and better on-road manners.



Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 26th August 10:22

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Friday 26th August 2022
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All very fair comments. Mine came with (quite silly looking) 235/75/R16 wheels. I would bet off-road they are very effective. But just did not look right to me. I have also changed the steering wheel from the giant Land Rover one to a Momo Prototipo Heritage. This has made the steering feel heavier too but not unreasonable. I can’t feel any real difference between the 16” and 18” wheels while driving, but I would not be surprised if there will be some long term wear on the bearings, steering rack etc?



I know, the purists are going to hate these changes, but let’s be honest. A landmark edition was never going to be a purists car was it? Especially in bright white…

Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 26th August 10:34

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Thanks BSE, yes I have added most of your suggestions. Optimil stuff is really nice and does a good job. |’ve added a couple of trackers and multiple immobilisers too. (Plus two mechanical locks like you mention).

Swapped the speakers for Focals and matched them to the Alpine sub for now. I will add some Mids in the rear and better amp/sub after I have done the engine and suspension upgrades.

You are not wrong, buying the car is only the start. It is a really cool/fun truck and I am quite enjoying the process of picking the best parts to enhance it. The trick is not to go too mad? Er, right??

findtomdotcom

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BSE, you are not wrong mate.

Camel, yes I added cruise control because I will drive about 1800 miles to Greece. A large part of that will be motorways, so adding cruise seemed like a good idea. It works really, (surprisingly) well.

Honestly, it’s a game changer for long distance driving in a Defender.

Edited by findtomdotcom on Friday 26th August 14:03

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No I wasn’t aware of the hose issue either. Can you post a photo and I’ll check mine now. I would hope to change the hoses for a stage 3/4 tune anyway?


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Good afternoon all. So I hadn’t updated this in a while…. I thought I would provide an update as a kind of plug to selling it and maybe just close the loop too.

Firstly, all the mods worked. The cruise control, the larger wheels and especially the Apple Car Play. Living in Greece has been very interesting and I added 13k nearly trouble free miles to the 90. The drive down to Greece was fantastic, (towing a small trailer). And daily life has been a breeze because the roads in Greece are quite broken (some normal roads are a bit “off’ road), and the extra hight meant I could see over the traffic in the city. The older 90 is a lot smaller than my new 110 and is perfect for the smaller city roads.

The only issue I had was a few months ago when it went into Land Rover for a full service, they found a rattle in the engine. It ended up being the injectors. Apparently it’s quite common for them to fail? I had all 4 cleaned and replaced 2 of them. I think to be fair, for a 9 year old Defender rattling around Greece that’s pretty good easy ownership in 18 months.

I have really enjoyed and loved owning it, but as my time in Greece nears an end I will look to bring it back to the UK and sell it.

If anyone is looking for a great spec nearly new looking 90 Landmark, (20k miles), please let me know!