So, is there a scam
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Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Unless I've missed the reason or misunderstood, why is it so strange that someone on the Seychelles with 'only 23,000' cars, wants to buy £583 of paint and materials?
To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
Because it's a niche product, high end, and just how many of the 23,000 car owners will create demand for such a product in a relatively poor country? And why ship from the UK rather than try to find a closer supplier?To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
vaud said:
Still feels like a scam.
Seychelles only has 23,000 cars. Why on earth would they want this product, and why from the UK?
probably knows someone who lives in the UK that can bring it back with them? that's quite a common thing to do. the amount of cars are quite irrelevant. seychelles very much as a tuning culture and you will still see older cars being driven/modded etc. theyre used to things taking ages via shipping.Seychelles only has 23,000 cars. Why on earth would they want this product, and why from the UK?
vaud said:
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
Unless I've missed the reason or misunderstood, why is it so strange that someone on the Seychelles with 'only 23,000' cars, wants to buy £583 of paint and materials?
To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
Because it's a niche product, high end, and just how many of the 23,000 car owners will create demand for such a product in a relatively poor country? And why ship from the UK rather than try to find a closer supplier?To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
AdeTuono said:
A niche product? It's alloy wheel paint-related, and hardly high-end. Do you think none of the 23,000 cars in the Seychelles have any wheels? For £500-odd, I'd be happy to pay that if I was running a garage in a small-ish town.
So why ship all the way from the UK? Why not go to an Africa reseller?vaud said:
AdeTuono said:
A niche product? It's alloy wheel paint-related, and hardly high-end. Do you think none of the 23,000 cars in the Seychelles have any wheels? For £500-odd, I'd be happy to pay that if I was running a garage in a small-ish town.
So why ship all the way from the UK? Why not go to an Africa reseller?Simpo Two said:
22s said:
The money was sent via BACS and is in the account. It's a relatively small amount, an obscure product and a very strange story to make up for it be a scam. Plus the most recent message about the importation/safety docs.
Perhaps the trick is that he will place one or two small orders to build up the OP's confidence, then order a big one and not pay for it. But it does seem like a remarkably specific and technical thing to be buying.r3g said:
OP seems quite evasive of questions on the matter. Took 2 weeks just to reply to the multitude of questions about the source funds, and even now can't be bothered to look deeper into it : "my account summary doesn't show" when picking up the phone to the bank would give him the info he needs in 2 seconds, which is surely what you'd do if you thought it was a scam. Then there is the multitude of questions about the product, what's so special about it, likely availability of it elsewhere in the world etc - all still unanswered. It's increasingly looking like none of this ever happened and it was simply a way of the OP advertising his company and products for free on PH forums where there's millions of viewers.
Whilst I don't disagree with you about the evasiveness, it's some pretty niche marketing trying to flog alloy wheel paint to the handful of people who occupy the Business section of a car forum. 
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
The guy has paid for the goods via a legitimate source, done everything that has been asked and it's the OP that has been stalling sending the goods on the advice of this thread.
Aha, now we're getting somewhere! What is the 'legitimate source'? The OP doesn't know apparently, and nor does anyone else so presumably you are his bank manager. What's the source of the funds because a personal cheque (can bounce) is very different from a bank transfer for example.Ari said:
You do understand that Amazon, Google etc don't just hand out their bank details and let you transfer in some money don't you? 
Firstly, it is entirely possible for you to get their bank details if you wish, and secondly I am not sure how that will convey some kind of scam....was there a point you were trying to make. Ari said:
Aha, now we're getting somewhere! What is the 'legitimate source'? The OP doesn't know apparently, and nor does anyone else so presumably you are his bank manager.
I thought he'd paid by bank transfer at the OP's request???Anyway this whole thread has turned into some kind of conspiracy and in my opinion has been mostly fuelled by posters on here trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
It's £583 or so of alloy wheel repair paint and materials bought by a guy from overseas. He paid for it promptly and exactly as the OP asked him too weeks ago, I'm failing to see where the 'scam' is?
r3g said:
OP seems quite evasive of questions on the matter. Took 2 weeks just to reply to the multitude of questions about the source funds, and even now can't be bothered to look deeper into it : "my account summary doesn't show" when picking up the phone to the bank would give him the info he needs in 2 seconds, which is surely what you'd do if you thought it was a scam. Then there is the multitude of questions about the product, what's so special about it, likely availability of it elsewhere in the world etc - all still unanswered. It's increasingly looking like none of this ever happened and it was simply a way of the OP advertising his company and products for free on PH forums where there's millions of viewers.
Sorry for the “Evasive” speed in replying, we are a tiny tiny company, it’s holiday season, when I’ve a lad off I’m 25% down on staff, meaning I’m working non stop sending orders out, as well as my usual business of alloy wheel refurb. Incase you didn’t read earlier in thread, I did call my bank, no real use at all. I’ve decided to send the orders, and have been in this morning putting it all together, and have messaged buyer with weight and dimensions, he hopes to get it collected at some point this week.
vaud said:
Seventyseven7 said:
It’s not a scam.
This place is like a local Facebook group, assuming a delivery driver is ‘acting suspicious and leaving markings to come back and burgle everyone’s houses’
So you assess a purchase based on some facts to assess risk.This place is like a local Facebook group, assuming a delivery driver is ‘acting suspicious and leaving markings to come back and burgle everyone’s houses’
Seychelles only has 23,000 cars. Why on earth would they want this product, and why from the UK?
Oh also western Union is a very safe way to receive payment that’s why scammers use it.
r3g said:
OThen there is the multitude of questions about the product, what's so special about it, likely availability of it elsewhere in the world etc - .
You can buy Kapci products (made in Egypt), in a fair few few countries, however as far as I know the UK is the only place you can buy this mini scheme, we make them up ourselves, as an alternative to full size schemes, ie 3-4k worth, and def won’t fit in a mobile smart repair van like this kit does. There are a few other UK based suppliers but we are the cheapest, and perhaps the only ones who entertained shipping overseas. We have sold over 200 in the UK, and bank on folk coming back to us for the top up tinters, do about 2-300 of these a week. (125ml to 500ml sizes). It’s a very popular base coat system
Edited by Quattromaster on Monday 28th August 19:00
Quattromaster said:
There are a few other UK based suppliers but we are the cheapest
Safegraph are doing them for £20 less and nicked your website page : https://safergraph.com/kapci-solvent-paint-schemeAlso there seem to be a large number of randomly named websites out there that have copied your website if you do a search for the product name. They all look like scam sites. Are you sure you haven't been hacked and don't realise it yet ?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=KAPCI+SOLVENT+MINI+MIXIN...
r3g said:
Quattromaster said:
There are a few other UK based suppliers but we are the cheapest
Safegraph are doing them for £20 less and nicked your website page : https://safergraph.com/kapci-solvent-paint-schemeGassing Station | Business | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff