So, is there a scam
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Countdown said:
I wonder if the £500 has been sent from an innocent but compromised bank account?
So, when the legitimate owner of the bank account notices/complains to their bank then the transfer gets reversed but your customer has received the goods?
this,So, when the legitimate owner of the bank account notices/complains to their bank then the transfer gets reversed but your customer has received the goods?
or he says he didnt receive goods... somewhere in this the scam exists...
Regy53 said:
We had somebody last week but somthing from us for 1500 quid. They put in 5500 into the bank and said oh sorry I told
My Mrs to send to somebody else
The money was showing as cleared but it was a cheque …… scam was obvious . Two days later it was gone from my
Account
Wait, what? They paid a cheque into your bank account? How does that work? My Mrs to send to somebody else
The money was showing as cleared but it was a cheque …… scam was obvious . Two days later it was gone from my
Account
ruggedscotty said:
Countdown said:
I wonder if the £500 has been sent from an innocent but compromised bank account?
So, when the legitimate owner of the bank account notices/complains to their bank then the transfer gets reversed but your customer has received the goods?
this,So, when the legitimate owner of the bank account notices/complains to their bank then the transfer gets reversed but your customer has received the goods?
or he says he didnt receive goods... somewhere in this the scam exists...
Can you find out why the purchaser is so insistent on purchasing from you? Are you a sole supplier in this field? Ask the purchaser for technical details that only a genuine user of the product will know.
If it is a scam then they aren't interested in the goods. They might ask for shipping or collection but that is a distraction and what they really want is for you to pay them money. A scam would involve you giving the scammer money such as refunding £500.00 when you never really had the funds in the first place or refunding £5000.00 because they supposedly overpaid you.
As the goods are important and valuable to you it can be difficult to disassociate your self from the goods and this causes you to ignore the financial side.
Assuming the scammer is running multiple victims try to reply to the scammer using a different email address and see what happens when they think they have a victim but don't know which scam it relates to and so they will be vague about who you are and the type of goods and the value.
Is this happening on Facebook marketplace?
If it is a scam then they aren't interested in the goods. They might ask for shipping or collection but that is a distraction and what they really want is for you to pay them money. A scam would involve you giving the scammer money such as refunding £500.00 when you never really had the funds in the first place or refunding £5000.00 because they supposedly overpaid you.
As the goods are important and valuable to you it can be difficult to disassociate your self from the goods and this causes you to ignore the financial side.
Assuming the scammer is running multiple victims try to reply to the scammer using a different email address and see what happens when they think they have a victim but don't know which scam it relates to and so they will be vague about who you are and the type of goods and the value.
Is this happening on Facebook marketplace?
Actual said:
If it is a scam then they aren't interested in the goods. They might ask for shipping or collection but that is a distraction and what they really want is for you to pay them money. A scam would involve you giving the scammer money such as refunding £500.00 when you never really had the funds in the first place or refunding £5000.00 because they supposedly overpaid you.
Good summary. I don't believe anyone is going to turn up to collect a Kapci Solvent Mini Mixing Scheme.Of course, this gives you the opportunity, now the scam is busted, to play innocent and see if you can get our Seychellian bandit to send you a photograph of himself holding a tin of custard... after all he needs to prove he's genuine before you can release the goods, right?
The only thing we can take bets on is how long before the £500 disappears.
Slightly old fashioned, but insist on cash on collect - and check the notes carefully ? gives them the chance if they are genuine but also sifts out the BS.
Years ago I sold a big heavy 4x12 speaker cabinet, £200 'local collection only' - to a guy in Poland! Thought there was a scam somewhere but he offered cash on collect, no haggling. A couple of days later the courier turns up just on time as arranged with the cash.
Quattromaster said:
It’s 80+ bottles of solvent paint, funnily enough the shipping companies are not that keen on allowing it on their aircraft, hence why we don’t ship overseas.
Explained all this to him, but he was adamant his courier would collect, late next week, giving me a few days to get it together.
All in all it’s about average suitcase size and weight.
IMO, where there is doubt, there is no doubt at all.Explained all this to him, but he was adamant his courier would collect, late next week, giving me a few days to get it together.
All in all it’s about average suitcase size and weight.
Your profit on this is, I’d guess, around £100-£150, but you could stand to lose £500, plus time, packing costs etc.
Personally, I’d be waiting until the funds are definitely cleared, (if they ever are), and refunding him the money.
105.4 said:
Your profit on this is, I’d guess, around £100-£150, but you could stand to lose £500, plus time, packing costs etc.
If it is a scam then the scammers are not interested in the goods. The scammers hope that if you are distracted by the the goods then you are more likely to fall for the scam. The scam is most likely a bogus refund transaction.
UPDATE.
Another order placed this morning, £83 ish, for some fine line tape and compound, messaged asking to add into the mixing scheme box.
Then let him know size and weight of package.
I did think during the night, how is he managing to pay a UK bank account from overseas, surely you need an IBAN number for that, I do when I transfer money to my mothers Spanish account. My website only gives out the standard sort code/Acc no.
It’s the phone calls I don’t get, looks an overseas number.
Another order placed this morning, £83 ish, for some fine line tape and compound, messaged asking to add into the mixing scheme box.
Then let him know size and weight of package.
I did think during the night, how is he managing to pay a UK bank account from overseas, surely you need an IBAN number for that, I do when I transfer money to my mothers Spanish account. My website only gives out the standard sort code/Acc no.
It’s the phone calls I don’t get, looks an overseas number.
The Count said:
My bet is that his courier can't make it, so asks for a refund (don't do this) while the original money is withdrawn through fraud etc, leaving you out of pocket.
Pretty much this ^*^The scam exists because you have normal sales and payment methods that they choose to ignore. This is key to the scam.
They want you to change how you process the exchange of money to their method. Why? Because that’s how their well proven scam works. It will be a well trodden path, and they will end up with both the payment and refund amounts. The goods are of little interest.
Don’t refund any money. If in doubt contact your bank.
Ham_and_Jam said:
Pretty much this ^*^
The scam exists because you have normal sales and payment methods that they choose to ignore. This is key to the scam.
They want you to change how you process the exchange of money to their method. Why? Because that’s how their well proven scam works. It will be a well trodden path, and they will end up with both the payment and refund amounts. The goods are of little interest.
Don’t refund any money. If in doubt contact your bank.
Most logical advice so far. Why would he not just get the courier to turn up with cash if he can arrange these kind of things from aboad? You have a clear purchase method and they have decided not to use it. The scam exists because you have normal sales and payment methods that they choose to ignore. This is key to the scam.
They want you to change how you process the exchange of money to their method. Why? Because that’s how their well proven scam works. It will be a well trodden path, and they will end up with both the payment and refund amounts. The goods are of little interest.
Don’t refund any money. If in doubt contact your bank.
Interested that he actually called to speak to somebody. I wonder how that conversation sounded and if your spider senses were tingling during the call?
pistonheadforum said:
You have a clear purchase method and they have decided not to use it.
Interested that he actually called to speak to somebody. I wonder how that conversation sounded and if your spider senses were tingling during the call?
To be fair, he has placed the order through website, and paid by BACs, when he called I said to him, the order must be placed through the website, and paid for using one of our agreed options, ie BACs, card or paypal. Interested that he actually called to speak to somebody. I wonder how that conversation sounded and if your spider senses were tingling during the call?
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