GDPR - anyone working in this area?
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I think it was something like twenty years ago when the health and safety in the workplace legislation was overhauled. Regular hearing, blood and eye tests were required of anyone working with machinery and a complete overhaul was promised. Companies sprung up around the country, investing in expensive medical diagnostic tools to carry out the required tests across the workforce. Continual training and updates were promised, and the law extended into similar testing and checks for people who just had desk jobs.If you work in a large company with a HR department, you may have had to sign a form that says you are sitting in a comfortable position at your desk. That's pretty much the sum total of the 'overhaul'.
I'm not saying that GDPR isn't worthy, or overdue. What I am saying is that the current signs are not promising for implementation.
Eric Mc said:
Is killing spam not one of the purposes of this legislation?
What sanctions are going to be imposed on a spammer from Vietnam or Brazil? They don't care about GDPR and any rights over personal data and there is really nothing the EU or the ICO and other EU countries equivalents can do about it.plasticpig said:
Eric Mc said:
Is killing spam not one of the purposes of this legislation?
What sanctions are going to be imposed on a spammer from Vietnam or Brazil? They don't care about GDPR and any rights over personal data and there is really nothing the EU or the ICO and other EU countries equivalents can do about it.Eric Mc said:
They are often operating on behalf of UK or EU based organisations - so just because the call or e-mail may emanate from non UK/EU countries does not mean that someone may have to face the music.
Most of those aren't technically spam they are bulk email marketing. There is a difference in that bulk email marketing is somewhat targeted. Spam isn't targeted. Responses to spam emails are a tiny percentage and the response rate is in the region of 1 response per 12.5 million emails sent. Spammers send out around 15 billion emails per day and according to Spamhaus 80% of this is down to just 100 organizations.For bulk email marketing a click through rate of 2 to 4 percent is normal.
pmanson said:
Received an email from Trust Pilot this week:
Really? That sounds like default opt in to me, which I thought was verboten?trustpilot said:
If for any reason you don’t agree with our updated Privacy Policy and would like to close your account, you can do so. Simply log in to your account, go to your Personal Settings and select “Delete my profile”.
Pretty much spot on! Eric Mc said:
So, the UK, which is LEAVING the EU, puts it into law and 26 other EU countries haven't yet?
Have they got a 25 May deadline too?
Which parts of GDPR should we not implement anyway?Have they got a 25 May deadline too?
Even when we leave, doing business with European companies will flow down requirements anyway?
Vaud said:
Eric Mc said:
So, the UK, which is LEAVING the EU, puts it into law and 26 other EU countries haven't yet?
Have they got a 25 May deadline too?
Which parts of GDPR should we not implement anyway?Have they got a 25 May deadline too?
Even when we leave, doing business with European companies will flow down requirements anyway?
Hi TinRobot,
Just checking if you received a PM I sent earlier. Now that I think about it, did I read earlier in the thread (but can't find exactly where) that you said you weren't responding to PMs?
Or maybe I imagined that
But I can't see any alternative contact info on your profile.
Just checking if you received a PM I sent earlier. Now that I think about it, did I read earlier in the thread (but can't find exactly where) that you said you weren't responding to PMs?
Or maybe I imagined that
But I can't see any alternative contact info on your profile.
Johnny Raydome said:
Hi TinRobot,
Just checking if you received a PM I sent earlier. Now that I think about it, did I read earlier in the thread (but can't find exactly where) that you said you weren't responding to PMs?
Or maybe I imagined that
But I can't see any alternative contact info on your profile.
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Just checking if you received a PM I sent earlier. Now that I think about it, did I read earlier in the thread (but can't find exactly where) that you said you weren't responding to PMs?
Or maybe I imagined that
But I can't see any alternative contact info on your profile.
Don't understand why I can't accept emails any more. There's bound to be some pesky kids involved.
Eric Mc said:
Thanks for the explanation. So, as ever, the UK goes "Full Monty" on a piece of EU regulation.
The UK is as far as I am aware going to keep bringing in all existing EU laws that have yet to be implemented. I am not sure when the cut off will be.The interesting point will be when we have totally left the EU, the EU brings in a new law that and the UK decides to copy it (or not).
Mojooo said:
The UK is as far as I am aware going to keep bringing in all existing EU laws that have yet to be implemented. I am not sure when the cut off will be.
The interesting point will be when we have totally left the EU, the EU brings in a new law that and the UK decides to copy it (or not).
I'm sure that will be the case - and may be a surprise to keen Brexiteers. The UK has always implemented EU policy promptly and has often opted for the full extensive version of any EU rule - unlike many other EU countries who prevaricated, delayed or ignored. The interesting point will be when we have totally left the EU, the EU brings in a new law that and the UK decides to copy it (or not).
Eric Mc said:
I'm sure that will be the case - and may be a surprise to keen Brexiteers. The UK has always implemented EU policy promptly and has often opted for the full extensive version of any EU rule - unlike many other EU countries who prevaricated, delayed or ignored.
What has always annoyed me about EU directives is not the intent or even the consent of the directive, or even the local implementation.It’s the enforcement.
Take food hygiene rules. Heavily codified in uk law (and rightly so). Fairly well enforced via environmental health, etc, but take one step into French or Greek (by example) markets or local shops and see it ignored on a wholesale basis.
Vaud said:
What has always annoyed me about EU directives is not the intent or even the consent of the directive, or even the local implementation.
It’s the enforcement.
Take food hygiene rules. Heavily codified in uk law (and rightly so). Fairly well enforced via environmental health, etc, but take one step into French or Greek (by example) markets or local shops and see it ignored on a wholesale basis.
That's always been the case. We are a much more "rule obeyance" country than many others. Even without the EU Britain has been keen to introduce lots *(and lots) of legislation. However, even with massive legislation in many areas, these extensive rules are often ignored in the UK too.It’s the enforcement.
Take food hygiene rules. Heavily codified in uk law (and rightly so). Fairly well enforced via environmental health, etc, but take one step into French or Greek (by example) markets or local shops and see it ignored on a wholesale basis.
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I suspect some rather more pragmatic solutions will emerge. Businesses will not stand the cost of compliance if the costs makes business non-viable. Some will just ship their 'centre of operations' to a more friendly host country. Others will stop activities that involve meeting burdensome regulations.Similarly, overly detailed and intrusive regulations rapidly become unenforcable, or get reduced to a tick box exercise so everyone can agree compliance has been achieved.
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