GDPR - anyone working in this area?

GDPR - anyone working in this area?

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Eric Mc

122,341 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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The term "Unfit for Purpose" springs to mind.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Eric Mc said:
The term "Unfit for Purpose" springs to mind.
Is any Government department?

Eric Mc

122,341 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Is any Government department?
Some are better than others. The ICO is tiny - compared to (say) HMRC or the Border Agency.

Sheepshanks

33,210 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Some are better than others. The ICO is tiny - compared to (say) HMRC or the Border Agency.
There's 500 of them, so a reasonable number. They get money from the Government as well as from registration fees.

You can see their monthly management accounts: https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-information/i...

TheRainMaker

6,383 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
You usually pay at the time of registration.

How come you didn't?
It said if you want to pay by card, pay now if you want to set up a DD we will send the details by email.

I have never received anything about payment, received the security code and ref number so I know they have the correct address.

TheRainMaker

6,383 posts

244 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Vaud said:
FYI your real/user name is showing in that screenshot.
Does that breach the GDPR?

hehe
Probably for PH and Thumbsnap rofl

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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TheRainMaker said:
It said if you want to pay by card, pay now if you want to set up a DD we will send the details by email.

I have never received anything about payment, received the security code and ref number so I know they have the correct address.
Ah, fair enough. I pay the first year by card.

Eric Mc

122,341 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
Eric Mc said:
Some are better than others. The ICO is tiny - compared to (say) HMRC or the Border Agency.
There's 500 of them, so a reasonable number. They get money from the Government as well as from registration fees.

You can see their monthly management accounts: https://ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/our-information/i...
HMRC Staff Number - 28,000 approx
UK Border Agency Staff Numbers - 23,000

500 does not seem an awful lot for the oversight they are supposed to have.


Sheepshanks

33,210 posts

121 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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TheRainMaker said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Vaud said:
FYI your real/user name is showing in that screenshot.
Does that breach the GDPR?

hehe
Probably for PH and Thumbsnap rofl
No - it's not unique. smile

Hoofy

76,682 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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TinRobot, is it really necessary for everyone to tell me they've updated their PP??

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Another forum I use is insisting users open the new privacy policy and click to say they have been agreed before permitting access.

shoot

Eric Mc

122,341 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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I've been getting loads of e-mails from organsations telling me that they have updated their privacy policy. Thanks for letting me know and all but, why are they doing this? What do they think they are achieving?

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Why?

I don't mind them having my data and I bet I am not alone.

Hoofy

76,682 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Hoofy said:
TinRobot, is it really necessary for everyone to tell me they've updated their PP??
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It does indeed H. It seems I know more about GDPR than the consultants they've paid. I thought it was un-fking-necessary.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

159 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Hoofy said:
It does indeed H. It seems I know more about GDPR than the consultants they've paid. I thought it was un-fking-necessary.
It probably comes under the justification of 'well it can't hurt'.

Hoofy

76,682 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Hoofy said:
It does indeed H. It seems I know more about GDPR than the consultants they've paid. I thought it was un-fking-necessary.
It probably comes under the justification of 'well it can't hurt'.
And it does hurt because people are fed up of it all. I think about 70% of GDPR emails are just about their new PP with no opt in.

Hoofy

76,682 posts

284 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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biggrin Were they going to notify everyone about their new PP?

Tuna

19,930 posts

286 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Actually, no, it has no value whatsoever. Try going online and getting a penny for your email address. You're not going to have much luck there.

Encouraging the public to 'take their toys back' is not going to have the effect some people think it'll have. It certainly won't make the data more valuable - for most companies, the only real value in actual customer data (rather than just contact lists) comes when you've got enough of it (like, terabytes of the stuff) to begin to make useful business decisions. Your individual browsing history etc. is pretty much worthless.

In fact, in some situations it has negative worth. By withholding your personal information, you make the cost of the sales pipeline higher. Cool, that means companies should be paying you for your email address doesn't it? Well, not really because the cost of a sale is something the end customer has to bear anyway. You wouldn't expect that Sainsburys starts to pay you to actually go to their shops to get shopping rather than having it delivered.

You can certainly suggest that discounts might be offered in return for 'being a member' (and that's exactly what you do see on a lot of mailing lists - a reward for making it easier for them to sell you stuff) - but it gets the relationship completely the wrong way round to suggest that you should receive payment for membership.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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If this works what am I going to do for my Viagra and bad credit loans?

Bikerjon

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2,211 posts

163 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Only yesterday I was asked by a new customer if I was "fully GDPR compliant". My slightly snappy response was that unless there is a proper recognised accreditation, how can anyone truly say they are fully GDPR compliant? I'm not sure they were too impressed, but it's the truth isn't it?