So, is there a scam
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Ari said:
There's the scam, he's overpaid. At some stage he will ask you to pay for his courier using the overpayment and claiming it's quite safe as you already have the funds.
You pay the 'courier' via bank transfer the £100 (or whatever it is) overpayment, the £600 (or whatever the total he has sent) gets withdrawn, you're £100 down.
What reason did he give for sending more than £500?
He didn’t overpay, he paid the correct amount for what he ordered. Not a penny less, not a penny more. You pay the 'courier' via bank transfer the £100 (or whatever it is) overpayment, the £600 (or whatever the total he has sent) gets withdrawn, you're £100 down.
What reason did he give for sending more than £500?
Customer messaged me today asking how we are getting on with the order, made some excuse about waiting for the plastic box it comes in, and hopefully should be ready, he then asks for the safety data sheet, saying the shipping company can ship it not problem if it’s water based, I reply saying it’s not water based (told him this before), but email him the MSDS anyway.
He came back an hr later saying no problem, let him have the dimensions and weight when ready.
Money is still showing in my account.
He came back an hr later saying no problem, let him have the dimensions and weight when ready.
Money is still showing in my account.
Quattromaster said:
Customer messaged me today asking how we are getting on with the order, made some excuse about waiting for the plastic box it comes in, and hopefully should be ready, he then asks for the safety data sheet, saying the shipping company can ship it not problem if it’s water based, I reply saying it’s not water based (told him this before), but email him the MSDS anyway.
He came back an hr later saying no problem, let him have the dimensions and weight when ready.
Money is still showing in my account.
Wow. This actually seems legit after all. No scammer would be asking for safety data sheets and weights and dimensions! Just package it up and tell him to send in his courier. He came back an hr later saying no problem, let him have the dimensions and weight when ready.
Money is still showing in my account.
I've been following this with interest. I initially thought it was a scam, but I've gradually gone off the idea and think it's likely.
The money was sent via BACS and is in the account. It's a relatively small amount, an obscure product and a very strange story to make up for it be a scam. Plus the most recent message about the importation/safety docs.
I wonder if he's posting on the biggest motoring forum in the Seychelles about how he thinks a website in the UK has scammed him by taking his money and then giving dodgy excuses for not delivering his paint!
The money was sent via BACS and is in the account. It's a relatively small amount, an obscure product and a very strange story to make up for it be a scam. Plus the most recent message about the importation/safety docs.
I wonder if he's posting on the biggest motoring forum in the Seychelles about how he thinks a website in the UK has scammed him by taking his money and then giving dodgy excuses for not delivering his paint!
22s said:
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I wonder if he's posting on the biggest motoring forum in the Seychelles about how he thinks a website in the UK has scammed him by taking his money and then giving dodgy excuses for not delivering his paint!
Probably, I’m gonna feel terrible as we pride ourselves on fast despatch and delivery times. I wonder if he's posting on the biggest motoring forum in the Seychelles about how he thinks a website in the UK has scammed him by taking his money and then giving dodgy excuses for not delivering his paint!
I’m guessing if is isn’t a scam then he will be coming back to us for his top up tinters, as and when he needs them, to be fair this is where we make the money, rather than the scheme itself, make a bit obviously but it’s the top ups that earn us the money.
Is this item widely available elsewhere in the world, like Asian regions, or something specific to the UK? I would imagine that cans of paint are available from numerous Asian/Chinese vendors at a far cheaper price than it would cost from the UK + shipping, so something still not adding up imo. Plus the initial request to pay by WU/ Where did the money come from? Was it a BACS/FP transaction from a UK account or an IBAN transfer? It will say on your statement.
r3g said:
Is this item widely available elsewhere in the world, like Asian regions, or something specific to the UK? I would imagine that cans of paint are available from numerous Asian/Chinese vendors at a far cheaper price than it would cost from the UK + shipping, so something still not adding up imo. Plus the initial request to pay by WU/ Where did the money come from? Was it a BACS/FP transaction from a UK account or an IBAN transfer? It will say on your statement.
Op's been asked that by a few people and never replied to it so...22s said:
The money was sent via BACS and is in the account. It's a relatively small amount, an obscure product and a very strange story to make up for it be a scam. Plus the most recent message about the importation/safety docs.
Perhaps the trick is that he will place one or two small orders to build up the OP's confidence, then order a big one and not pay for it. But it does seem like a remarkably specific and technical thing to be buying.
This thread has been running for two and a half weeks, apart from it being a bit of an out of the ordinary request, this thread seems to have been the main driving force behind blowing it out of proportion.
The guy has paid for the goods via a legitimate source, done everything that has been asked and it's the OP that has been stalling sending the goods on the advice of this thread.
Personally at this point I'd let the goods go and see if there is any comeback. My gut feeling says it will be fine. If the buyer gets any more frustrated and he is a legitimate customer after all, he is less likely to return for repeat business.
The guy has paid for the goods via a legitimate source, done everything that has been asked and it's the OP that has been stalling sending the goods on the advice of this thread.
Personally at this point I'd let the goods go and see if there is any comeback. My gut feeling says it will be fine. If the buyer gets any more frustrated and he is a legitimate customer after all, he is less likely to return for repeat business.
Matt_E_Mulsion said:
This thread has been running for two and a half weeks, apart from it being a bit of an out of the ordinary request, this thread seems to have been the main driving force behind blowing it out of proportion.
The guy has paid for the goods via a legitimate source, done everything that has been asked and it's the OP that has been stalling sending the goods on the advice of this thread.
Personally at this point I'd let the goods go and see if there is any comeback. My gut feeling says it will be fine. If the buyer gets any more frustrated and he is a legitimate customer after all, he is less likely to return for repeat business.
Still feels like a scam.The guy has paid for the goods via a legitimate source, done everything that has been asked and it's the OP that has been stalling sending the goods on the advice of this thread.
Personally at this point I'd let the goods go and see if there is any comeback. My gut feeling says it will be fine. If the buyer gets any more frustrated and he is a legitimate customer after all, he is less likely to return for repeat business.
Seychelles only has 23,000 cars. Why on earth would they want this product, and why from the UK?
Quattromaster said:
Probably, I’m gonna feel terrible as we pride ourselves on fast despatch and delivery times.
I’m guessing if is isn’t a scam then he will be coming back to us for his top up tinters, as and when he needs them, to be fair this is where we make the money, rather than the scheme itself, make a bit obviously but it’s the top ups that earn us the money.
Don't worry someone will be along shortly to tell you that the scammer is playing the long game, and will scam you for all you have on the second order! I’m guessing if is isn’t a scam then he will be coming back to us for his top up tinters, as and when he needs them, to be fair this is where we make the money, rather than the scheme itself, make a bit obviously but it’s the top ups that earn us the money.
OP seems quite evasive of questions on the matter. Took 2 weeks just to reply to the multitude of questions about the source funds, and even now can't be bothered to look deeper into it : "my account summary doesn't show" when picking up the phone to the bank would give him the info he needs in 2 seconds, which is surely what you'd do if you thought it was a scam. Then there is the multitude of questions about the product, what's so special about it, likely availability of it elsewhere in the world etc - all still unanswered. It's increasingly looking like none of this ever happened and it was simply a way of the OP advertising his company and products for free on PH forums where there's millions of viewers.
Unless I've missed the reason or misunderstood, why is it so strange that someone on the Seychelles with 'only 23,000' cars, wants to buy £583 of paint and materials?
To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
To the OP, I think you should either refund the man or send the goods. It's you who is stringing him along in my opinion.
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