Moving to the sticks - need BB help
Discussion
Depends how much money you want to spend. You could get two ADSL lines and bond them. Your chosen ISP needs to support bonded lines and it's a lot more expensive. BE offer it for £65 a month. There are other ISP's that offer it but last time I looked BE were the cheapest I could find.
Mr Noble said:
Moving to the sticks soon. Checker says 3-7mb is available. Have been on 100mb Virgin for last few years so
I think I'm going to go for the BT deal that's on TV advertised right now.
Any suggestions for making things faster or is BT likely to be the best I can get?
If you get nearer the 7MB it's not so bad - most of us 'suffer' that kind of bandwidth and it's fine. You've just been spoiled. I think I'm going to go for the BT deal that's on TV advertised right now.
Any suggestions for making things faster or is BT likely to be the best I can get?
Thanks for all the help and support through this difficult time. It's much appreciated
The Bonding thing looks very interesting.
Best plan I think is to give it a go for a couple of weeks and see how much I want to kill myself. If the "special movies" don't buffer, then I think I'll survive
The Bonding thing looks very interesting.
Best plan I think is to give it a go for a couple of weeks and see how much I want to kill myself. If the "special movies" don't buffer, then I think I'll survive
Mr Noble said:
Thanks for all the help and support through this difficult time. It's much appreciated
The Bonding thing looks very interesting.
Best plan I think is to give it a go for a couple of weeks and see how much I want to kill myself. If the "special movies" don't buffer, then I think I'll survive
6-7meg you'll be fine. I'm on 0.80meg. Brilliant. The Bonding thing looks very interesting.
Best plan I think is to give it a go for a couple of weeks and see how much I want to kill myself. If the "special movies" don't buffer, then I think I'll survive
Here's Shtu's Patented Top Tips for Rural ADSL. (Based on 5 years work to bring a 256kb connection up to 2Mb. At roughly 9.5Km from the exchange)
If you don't have a modern NTE5 master socket - get one installed. BT charge about £30 for "regularisation" of the wiring. I cannot suggest buying an Openreach-branded one from eBay and installing yourself, even though it's a 15 min job. That's illegal, even though it's simple to transfer the A and B connections from the existing to the new.
Ahem.
DIY-Shed master socket? 3rd-party chrome or brass one? Bin, get an Openreach one fitted.
Check that when you remove the front part of the master socket to get at the test socket, every extension in the house goes dead. Check each one in turn with a corded phone.
Check for monitored alarm diallers, Oil or Gas tank "Watchman" devices, basically anything else that could be connected to the line. Find out where they connect, and how. The installers of these have a nasty habit of connecting them directly to the BT wiring, which is both bad practice, and illegal.
Check the incoming "drop" wire for any signs of damage from tree branches or the like. Take a look at any overhead cable near your house too.
If there is a small grey box screwed to the wall that the drop wire goes into, you may want to carefully take the cover off, and check that all the connections look to be in good condition and not damp or corroded.
Get an Openreach-branded filtered faceplate, and replace the front part of the master socket with this. Any further wiring should be connected to the faceplate.
Choose a router that works well on long lines. The 2Wire 2700HGV is an excellent device in this respect, although it can seem limited in some areas as it's intended as a router for BT business customers. It can be used with other ISPs with some work.
Using a corded phone plugged into the test socket (and nothing else), dial 17070, choose option 2, and listen. You may hear a very faint background hiss. Any crackles, pops, rustlilng? Book a voice fault for intermittent line noise and don't mention broadband.
The line checker estimates are deliberately conservative, so wait and see what you get when you actually plug in a router. Id' stil recommend following the above steps to make the most of what you have.
If you don't have a modern NTE5 master socket - get one installed. BT charge about £30 for "regularisation" of the wiring. I cannot suggest buying an Openreach-branded one from eBay and installing yourself, even though it's a 15 min job. That's illegal, even though it's simple to transfer the A and B connections from the existing to the new.
Ahem.
DIY-Shed master socket? 3rd-party chrome or brass one? Bin, get an Openreach one fitted.
Check that when you remove the front part of the master socket to get at the test socket, every extension in the house goes dead. Check each one in turn with a corded phone.
Check for monitored alarm diallers, Oil or Gas tank "Watchman" devices, basically anything else that could be connected to the line. Find out where they connect, and how. The installers of these have a nasty habit of connecting them directly to the BT wiring, which is both bad practice, and illegal.
Check the incoming "drop" wire for any signs of damage from tree branches or the like. Take a look at any overhead cable near your house too.
If there is a small grey box screwed to the wall that the drop wire goes into, you may want to carefully take the cover off, and check that all the connections look to be in good condition and not damp or corroded.
Get an Openreach-branded filtered faceplate, and replace the front part of the master socket with this. Any further wiring should be connected to the faceplate.
Choose a router that works well on long lines. The 2Wire 2700HGV is an excellent device in this respect, although it can seem limited in some areas as it's intended as a router for BT business customers. It can be used with other ISPs with some work.
Using a corded phone plugged into the test socket (and nothing else), dial 17070, choose option 2, and listen. You may hear a very faint background hiss. Any crackles, pops, rustlilng? Book a voice fault for intermittent line noise and don't mention broadband.
The line checker estimates are deliberately conservative, so wait and see what you get when you actually plug in a router. Id' stil recommend following the above steps to make the most of what you have.
Edited by shtu on Thursday 2nd August 11:22
shtu said:
Here's Shtu's Patented Top Tips for Rural ADSL. (Based on 5 years work to bring a 256kb connection up to 2Mb. At roughly 9.5Km from the exchange)
If you don't have a modern NTE5 master socket - get one installed. BT charge about £30 for "regularisation" of the wiring. I cannot suggest buying an Openreach-branded one from eBay and installing yourself, even though it's a 15 min job. That's illegal, even though it's simple to transfer the A and B connections from the existing to the new.
Ahem.
DIY-Shed master socket? 3rd-party chrome or brass one? Bin, get an Openreach one fitted.
Check that when you remove the front part of the master socket to get at the test socket, every extension in the house goes dead. Check each one in turn with a corded phone.
Check for monitored alarm diallers, Oil or Gas tank "Watchman" devices, basically anything else that could be connected to the line. Find out where they connect, and how. The installers of these have a nasty habit of connecting them directly to the BT wiring, which is both bad practice, and illegal.
Check the incoming "drop" wire for any signs of damage from tree branches or the like. Take a look at any overhead cable near your house too.
If there is a small grey box screwed to the wall that the drop wire goes into, you may want to carefully take the cover off, and check that all the connections look to be in good condition and not damp or corroded.
Get an Openreach-branded filtered faceplate, and replace the front part of the master socket with this. Any further wiring should be connected to the faceplate.
Choose a router that works well on long lines. The 2Wire 2700HGV is an excellent device in this respect, although it can seem limited in some areas as it's intended as a router for BT business customers. It can be used with other ISPs with some work.
Using a corded phone plugged into the test socket (and nothing else), dial 17070, choose option 2, and listen. You may hear a very faint background hiss. Any crackles, pops, rustlilng? Book a voice fault for intermittent line noise and don't mention broadband.
Great post.If you don't have a modern NTE5 master socket - get one installed. BT charge about £30 for "regularisation" of the wiring. I cannot suggest buying an Openreach-branded one from eBay and installing yourself, even though it's a 15 min job. That's illegal, even though it's simple to transfer the A and B connections from the existing to the new.
Ahem.
DIY-Shed master socket? 3rd-party chrome or brass one? Bin, get an Openreach one fitted.
Check that when you remove the front part of the master socket to get at the test socket, every extension in the house goes dead. Check each one in turn with a corded phone.
Check for monitored alarm diallers, Oil or Gas tank "Watchman" devices, basically anything else that could be connected to the line. Find out where they connect, and how. The installers of these have a nasty habit of connecting them directly to the BT wiring, which is both bad practice, and illegal.
Check the incoming "drop" wire for any signs of damage from tree branches or the like. Take a look at any overhead cable near your house too.
If there is a small grey box screwed to the wall that the drop wire goes into, you may want to carefully take the cover off, and check that all the connections look to be in good condition and not damp or corroded.
Get an Openreach-branded filtered faceplate, and replace the front part of the master socket with this. Any further wiring should be connected to the faceplate.
Choose a router that works well on long lines. The 2Wire 2700HGV is an excellent device in this respect, although it can seem limited in some areas as it's intended as a router for BT business customers. It can be used with other ISPs with some work.
Using a corded phone plugged into the test socket (and nothing else), dial 17070, choose option 2, and listen. You may hear a very faint background hiss. Any crackles, pops, rustlilng? Book a voice fault for intermittent line noise and don't mention broadband.
Not sure if there are any operating in your area, but we have rural broadband provider that operates a fibre to mast system (at least I think that's what it's called!)
We have a small box on our roof that means we're good for 20mb speeds. (line of sight to transmitter)It also means that we don't need a BT line anymore
Not that expensive either, we're paying £15 per month for 10mb. Until the local exchange upgrades, it's doing a great job.
We have a small box on our roof that means we're good for 20mb speeds. (line of sight to transmitter)It also means that we don't need a BT line anymore
Not that expensive either, we're paying £15 per month for 10mb. Until the local exchange upgrades, it's doing a great job.
Kuroblack350 said:
Not sure if there are any operating in your area, but we have rural broadband provider that operates a fibre to mast system (at least I think that's what it's called!)
We have a small box on our roof that means we're good for 20mb speeds. (line of sight to transmitter)It also means that we don't need a BT line anymore
Not that expensive either, we're paying £15 per month for 10mb. Until the local exchange upgrades, it's doing a great job.
sounds good. Any more details?We have a small box on our roof that means we're good for 20mb speeds. (line of sight to transmitter)It also means that we don't need a BT line anymore
Not that expensive either, we're paying £15 per month for 10mb. Until the local exchange upgrades, it's doing a great job.
shtu said:
Get an Openreach-branded filtered faceplate, and replace the front part of the master socket with this. Any further wiring should be connected to the faceplate.
You don't need an Openreach branded one. You can save a couple of quid and get a Pressac one. Apart from the branding on the face plate they are identical.shtu said:
Here's Shtu's Patented Top Tips for Rural ADSL. (Based on 5 years work to bring a 256kb connection up to 2Mb. At roughly 9.5Km from the exchange)
SNIP !!!!
LEGENDARY !!!SNIP !!!!
I'm just moving from 60Mb fibreoptic Leeds suburbia, to a beautiful Cumbrian village, where the locals stare at the electricity poles with a mixture of suspicion and fear.
I'm going to need this post over the next 6 months !!
many thanks !
I moved from central Bristol to rural Dorset 2 miles down a copper wire from the exchange and (admittedly I don't download etc a great deal) the drop in performance isn't too bad. I use Zen so they have to deal with BT... The issue we've had is the odd outage. The worst was a week without BB or phone because BT were swamped and needed a cherry picker to sort it.
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