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RayDonovan

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4,449 posts

216 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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Luke. said:
BlueJazz said:
Said stuff...
Thanks for the update. Appreciated. Think I'll stick with the S21U for a little while yet as no real reason to upgrade and not that into my photography.... Cheers.
Same. My S21U is all paid for and I'm sim only, just can't justify the price when this phone does 95% of what I need.

TheLurker

1,373 posts

197 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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It really does seem like the progress of phones has slowed down a lot. Its an awful lot of money for a slightly better camera and battery life.

I think I read that a lot of people are keeping their phones a lot longer now than they used to. Its just a shame that replacing batteries is so difficult now, as that's often the motivating factor for me to get a new phone.

BlueJazz

509 posts

173 months

Monday 27th February 2023
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I think the next line of innovation will be a folding phone but with a flagship camera setup. At the moment you can't have both from Samsung.

DKS

1,686 posts

185 months

Wednesday 1st March 2023
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TheLurker said:
It really does seem like the progress of phones has slowed down a lot. Its an awful lot of money for a slightly better camera and battery life.

I think I read that a lot of people are keeping their phones a lot longer now than they used to. Its just a shame that replacing batteries is so difficult now, as that's often the motivating factor for me to get a new phone.
My last three (S7, S9 & S20FE) easily lasted the 2 year contract but I was persuaded to upgrade due to features then a big screen of the S20FE. I only upgraded this time to go back to a smaller phone this time. It appears to have rubbish battery life, often struggling to last a full day.

Shiv_P

2,767 posts

106 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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Cost to me to go from S22U to S23U was around £200
Well worth it, camera noticeably better and mostly, BATTERY!!
Also quite a lot smoother and quicker to use, although S22U wasn't slow at all. So glad the snapdragon is finally in the UK

If you go for any model, get 256GB and above as you get faster UFS 4.0 storage rather than UFS 3.1 on 128GB

TheLurker

1,373 posts

197 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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DKS said:
My last three (S7, S9 & S20FE) easily lasted the 2 year contract but I was persuaded to upgrade due to features then a big screen of the S20FE. I only upgraded this time to go back to a smaller phone this time. It appears to have rubbish battery life, often struggling to last a full day.
That is one thing I like about the FE models - they seem to come with decent size batteries.

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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TheLurker said:
Chicken Chaser said:
I went S8, S10 to S22. Aside from camera and battery life, I don't find there any other benefits to upgrading.

The biggest loss to phones is the lack of a replaceable battery. If there was a clear choice, I'd go for one with as it means I could keep it much longer before having to switch phones. From an environmental point of view, that has to be much more sustainable than the constant churn of the next best thing...
Yes, quite. I know you can get batteries replaced with modern phones, but I can't even seem to find genuine batteries for mine. So you could easily spend your money and get a counterfeit battery which will be worse than the one you're replacing.
These phones are a work of art, they're inching down towards 7mm thick now, my Tab S8 Ultra is 5.6mm thick. They would be back up towards 10mm if you went back to removable batteries again and the aesthetics would be out of the window managing a removeable cover. £1200 for a phone with a plastic back is where you'd be.

99% of people don't want to change the battery and the 1% that do can still get them changed if they really want to. If you need more battery life there are plug-in power packs, wireless power packs and 45w charging too, so for most people this isn't an issue and they would rather not spend £1200 on a plastic phone, with ugly separations, no water resistance and 30% extra thickness to fix a non-issue.

That's the reality of the situation unfortunately.

On the Power Button thing, I see why they've done that a bit, you're supposed to just leave it on all the time, there is a setting somewhere that lets it auto-reboot itself overnight if it needs to. What's a pain is that they heavily llimit how you can customise the buttons, only so that you accidentally press the Bixby button and agree to it's T&Cs to make it go away. I have an app called bxButtons that gives you full control over all the buttons, so double tap and hold on all three keys. Highly recommended.

What's Goodlock, does anyone have a link? When I search for it nothing comes up that looks like what was described.

_-XXXX-_

10,302 posts

206 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Shiv_P said:
Cost to me to go from S22U to S23U was around £200
Well worth it, camera noticeably better and mostly, BATTERY!!
Also quite a lot smoother and quicker to use, although S22U wasn't slow at all. So glad the snapdragon is finally in the UK

If you go for any model, get 256GB and above as you get faster UFS 4.0 storage rather than UFS 3.1 on 128GB
How did you upgrade for only £200!?! My S22U is less than 6 months old, Samsung trade in was only £500 off, I get 10% off that but still looking at a fat wedge to change! I'd only change because of the processor.....

Newc

1,884 posts

183 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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paulrockliffe said:
What's Goodlock, does anyone have a link? When I search for it nothing comes up that looks like what was described.


https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.samsung...

HomeUp, Quickstar, and Lockstar are the most useful modules.

JagYouAre

437 posts

171 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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paulrockliffe said:
What's Goodlock, does anyone have a link? When I search for it nothing comes up that looks like what was described.
It's available in the Samsung Galaxy Store, not Google Play Store. It's sort of a suite of apps that gives you a bit more customisation over a number of things (lock screen, notifications, s pen etc.). I've got it on my phone but never really delved into it to be honest as I'm pretty happy with what I can do already, but I'm sure there's some good stuff in there.

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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Nice one, thanks, I like a good tinker.

g4ry13

17,123 posts

256 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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Graphite or Green?

Graphite has a 3-4 week wait. Green can be acquired much sooner and looks quite nice from what i've seen.

I do like a more interesting colour and Graphite may be a tad boring. I tell myself it's going to end up in a case and in my pocket so probably not worth thinking about too much.

the-photographer

3,488 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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TheLurker said:
It really does seem like the progress of phones has slowed down a lot. Its an awful lot of money for a slightly better camera and battery life.

I think I read that a lot of people are keeping their phones a lot longer now than they used to. Its just a shame that replacing batteries is so difficult now, as that's often the motivating factor for me to get a new phone.
Have a look at the brand new Nokia G22 with its user replaceable parts

TheLurker

1,373 posts

197 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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paulrockliffe said:
TheLurker said:
Chicken Chaser said:
I went S8, S10 to S22. Aside from camera and battery life, I don't find there any other benefits to upgrading.

The biggest loss to phones is the lack of a replaceable battery. If there was a clear choice, I'd go for one with as it means I could keep it much longer before having to switch phones. From an environmental point of view, that has to be much more sustainable than the constant churn of the next best thing...
Yes, quite. I know you can get batteries replaced with modern phones, but I can't even seem to find genuine batteries for mine. So you could easily spend your money and get a counterfeit battery which will be worse than the one you're replacing.
These phones are a work of art, they're inching down towards 7mm thick now, my Tab S8 Ultra is 5.6mm thick. They would be back up towards 10mm if you went back to removable batteries again and the aesthetics would be out of the window managing a removeable cover. £1200 for a phone with a plastic back is where you'd be.

99% of people don't want to change the battery and the 1% that do can still get them changed if they really want to. If you need more battery life there are plug-in power packs, wireless power packs and 45w charging too, so for most people this isn't an issue and they would rather not spend £1200 on a plastic phone, with ugly separations, no water resistance and 30% extra thickness to fix a non-issue.

That's the reality of the situation unfortunately.

On the Power Button thing, I see why they've done that a bit, you're supposed to just leave it on all the time, there is a setting somewhere that lets it auto-reboot itself overnight if it needs to. What's a pain is that they heavily llimit how you can customise the buttons, only so that you accidentally press the Bixby button and agree to it's T&Cs to make it go away. I have an app called bxButtons that gives you full control over all the buttons, so double tap and hold on all three keys. Highly recommended.

What's Goodlock, does anyone have a link? When I search for it nothing comes up that looks like what was described.
Yes, agree with all of that. My point was more that it's hard to find a genuine battery to do a replacement if you wanted to at some point. As you say, the design tradeoffs of user replaceable batteries just isn't worth it, but being able to easily secure genuine batteries would make sense.

TC7

129 posts

87 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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g4ry13 said:
Graphite or Green?

Graphite has a 3-4 week wait. Green can be acquired much sooner and looks quite nice from what i've seen.

I do like a more interesting colour and Graphite may be a tad boring. I tell myself it's going to end up in a case and in my pocket so probably not worth thinking about too much.
Iv got graphite, previous s10 was green and my s21 was white so im working through the colours model by model smile

It's a nice colour, understated but tbh within a day id put the tan leather case on so you dont see the colour anyway.

Shiv_P

2,767 posts

106 months

Saturday 11th March 2023
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_-XXXX-_ said:
Shiv_P said:
Cost to me to go from S22U to S23U was around £200
Well worth it, camera noticeably better and mostly, BATTERY!!
Also quite a lot smoother and quicker to use, although S22U wasn't slow at all. So glad the snapdragon is finally in the UK

If you go for any model, get 256GB and above as you get faster UFS 4.0 storage rather than UFS 3.1 on 128GB
How did you upgrade for only £200!?! My S22U is less than 6 months old, Samsung trade in was only £500 off, I get 10% off that but still looking at a fat wedge to change! I'd only change because of the processor.....
Launch price upgrade to 512gb, 10% off with an accessory, 10% off with a referral code and £150 trade in for a broken brick phone off eBay made the base price £890. 10% quid I cashback made it £800, sold S22U for 600 so £200 to upgrade quite happy with that

JagYouAre

437 posts

171 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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g4ry13 said:
Graphite or Green?

Graphite has a 3-4 week wait. Green can be acquired much sooner and looks quite nice from what i've seen.

I do like a more interesting colour and Graphite may be a tad boring. I tell myself it's going to end up in a case and in my pocket so probably not worth thinking about too much.
I got the S22U in Red. It looked nice but spent exactly 100% of it's time in its case and generated exactly 0% extra revenue come trade in so I this time I got my S23U in black.

At the end of the day you are talking about the back of a telephone. I don't think I'll ever bother with a random colour again.

paulrockliffe

15,746 posts

228 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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Was looking to upgrade my S20+ over the weekend, my usual approach is to buy the Sxx+ before the current one on eBay for about £400 and run it until I smash the screen. I've not managed to smash this screen, but it spanks the battery now as soon as I leave the house, so it's probably time to start looking. I have a Tab S8 Ultra too for around the house, so I was considering going down a screen size this time too.

But I looked at specs and the S21 and S22 , + and non+ aren't really an upgrade on the S20+, the S23 and S23+ aren't much better either, pretty much the same spec cameras, lower screen resolution and they're more like £600 on eBay now for the older phones.

So now I don't know what to do! I like my +, but like I said I was inclined to go down a screen size, but the only thing that seems to be value for money is the S23 Ultra! Trade-in on my phone is £440, which is 10% more than I paid for it and I can 0% finance it at £20 a month rather than laying down a load of cash now. It's not a noticeable amount more than the S23 or S23+ on finance, but it is a genuine upgrade over what I already have.

Apart from the screen size, the main thing that's stopping me is that it's that bit thicker than the others, I really like how thin my current phone is.

What should I do?


dontlookdown

1,770 posts

94 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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paulrockliffe said:
Was looking to upgrade my S20+ over the weekend, my usual approach is to buy the Sxx+ before the current one on eBay for about £400 and run it until I smash the screen. I've not managed to smash this screen, but it spanks the battery now as soon as I leave the house, so it's probably time to start looking. I have a Tab S8 Ultra too for around the house, so I was considering going down a screen size this time too.

But I looked at specs and the S21 and S22 , + and non+ aren't really an upgrade on the S20+, the S23 and S23+ aren't much better either, pretty much the same spec cameras, lower screen resolution and they're more like £600 on eBay now for the older phones.

So now I don't know what to do! I like my +, but like I said I was inclined to go down a screen size, but the only thing that seems to be value for money is the S23 Ultra! Trade-in on my phone is £440, which is 10% more than I paid for it and I can 0% finance it at £20 a month rather than laying down a load of cash now. It's not a noticeable amount more than the S23 or S23+ on finance, but it is a genuine upgrade over what I already have.

Apart from the screen size, the main thing that's stopping me is that it's that bit thicker than the others, I really like how thin my current phone is.

What should I do?
If you're happy with the phone you have apart from the battery life, get a new battery fitted at one of those high street phone shops and off you go. Rarely more than 100 quid IME and quite probably less.

the-norseman

12,537 posts

172 months

Monday 13th March 2023
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Just seen a video of a guy playing Call of duty mobile via Dex with XBOX wireless controller, pretty cool! Wish Google would introduce a DEX like feature on the Pixel devices.