Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

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techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Hah the only reason apple lost the headphone jack was so they could sell lots of their apple wireless air pod things, don't kid yourself it was for anything else.


Battlewagon

142 posts

78 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Apple execs face jail in France after lawsuit over slowing down iPhones

https://www.thelocal.fr/20171228/french-lawsuit-la...

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Good
This is despicable.

Could have avoided it easily by notifying the user. Chose to automatically slow down the phone by almost 2 thirds and hide it.

Apples biggest revenue is phones, their market isn't expanding most sales are to existing users. Cheat and lie your way to extra billions.

Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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My question is this - if it's been such an enormous corporate secret for so long, why did they suddenly chose to announce it now? They must have known what the reaction was going to be. It's not as though they've been caught like VW is it?

Or have they been caught and thought it prudent to speak out now rather than have somebody else do it for them? Like the FBI.

They cracked an iPhone belonging to the San Bernardino killer a couple of years ago. Chances are they found something else over time too.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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They were caught.

Some user done a performance test before and after a replacement battery and it blew up from there.

Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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RobDickinson said:
They were caught.

Some user done a performance test before and after a replacement battery and it blew up from there.
I see.

Strange how they chose to scew the CPU over and not dim the display.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...

DodgeRam Van Man

120 posts

177 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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I think it also affects iPads, as my iPad mini is dog slow now with a noticeable delay between pressing the home button and the home screen appearing. I just assumed it was OS bloat with updates over the years, but I’m on the original battery (which does have a decent life still) so could be the same issue.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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DodgeRam Van Man said:
I think it also affects iPads, as my iPad mini is dog slow now with a noticeable delay between pressing the home button and the home screen appearing. I just assumed it was OS bloat with updates over the years, but I’m on the original battery (which does have a decent life still) so could be the same issue.
My flipping iPad is noticeably much much slower than my phone (new phone, 2 year old air)

Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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otolith

56,470 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Interesting proportion of droid phones running old OS builds. I thought “surely they’re getting security related patches”, but

https://www.networkworld.com/article/3026256/mobil...


Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Apple now in full damage limitation mode. Just on the BBC, they've apologised to customers for the slow down and are offering replacement batteries at a discounted rate.

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
RobDickinson said:
They were caught.

Some user done a performance test before and after a replacement battery and it blew up from there.
I see.

Strange how they chose to scew the CPU over and not dim the display.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-an...
If they made the display dimmer it would have been exposed long before, the slow cpu can be given plausible deniability by new OS updates, more demanding apps etc, a dim display is literally - in your face.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Apple now in full damage limitation mode. Just on the BBC, they've apologised to customers for the slow down and are offering replacement batteries at a discounted rate.
I wish they would speed up my iPad!

techguyone

3,137 posts

143 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
Indeed, it has been known for a long time that people have complained that iphones go slow - just around the time a new iphone is released.

Cobnapint

8,642 posts

152 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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techguyone said:
If they made the display dimmer it would have been exposed long before, the slow cpu can be given plausible deniability by new OS updates, more demanding apps etc, a dim display is literally - in your face.
I was being ironic. But yes, plausible deniability - until Geekbench showed up.

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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They've revised battery replacement prices to $30, which is reasonable

audi321

5,247 posts

214 months

Thursday 28th December 2017
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This was EXACTLY me. I ended up paying a £20 cheapo phone shop to put a new battery in my 6 and it did improve things but not back to how things were before ios11.

I ended up buying an X.

I’ve suspected this on virtually every iPhone I’ve had (I’ve had them all since the original one until the 6). It absolutely stinks.

It really has changed my opinion of apple (not MacBooks). I have an 8 year old pro which has the latest OS on and still runs as fast as the day I bought it.

I’d say it’s a bit of both. Yes the original battery clearly isn’t up to the job long term, but I’d also bet they slow them down to make people upgrade. Otherwise surely my 6 would have been back to normal speed when I had the new battery fitted?

h0b0

7,668 posts

197 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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I changed the battery on my 6 and it is like new. My phone was appallingly slow. If you go into the battery settings it may say your battery needs checking. If so, you are in the same boat as me.

It’s funny, now I have reset the phone, I have to rest my routine. I looked at my phone this morning and expected 80% battery and it was still 100. I thought it was lying to me. Later, my wife took out my charge cable while I was navigating. I got “range anxiety”. After 30 minutes I was down only a couple of percent.

I will admit I took advantage of a larger capacity battery than the standard 1810 which means my battery is literally better than new.

Buy a new battery and replace it yourself. Give it a couple of years and Apple will screw us in new ways. They have 1p0% being doing this since 3GS when I changed my first battery. Back then it was a pain in the ass to do though.

TheGuru

744 posts

102 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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That can happen with major Apple upgrades, normally a factory reset and restore sorts that out. It's a pain in the arse as backup and restore can take a long time, but it does generally sort out all the issues. My son has an old 6 that he inherited from me and it works perfectly fine. My wife's 6S works fine and even when I run it next to my 7 there appears to be no real speed differences in normal usage.


bazza white

3,569 posts

129 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Even if you change the battery are they changing the coding that throttles at the same time.