Starlink Broadband

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theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Brilliant to hear. I'll be very interested to see how well it works. Does anyone have a measure of latency in particular how consistent it is?

Will also need to look into roof or pole mounted options that will survive in a windswept location.

Northernboy

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12,642 posts

259 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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theboss said:
Brilliant to hear. I'll be very interested to see how well it works. Does anyone have a measure of latency in particular how consistent it is?

Will also need to look into roof or pole mounted options that will survive in a windswept location.
40ms on average.

Mine’s stuck into the end of a scaffold pole sticking a couple of mètres above the ridge if the house which is at the top of a hill. It seems to be completely solid

essayer

9,129 posts

196 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Is there any second hand market for these at all? We're in 4G land until Gigaclear install our road, which is supposedly Q4 but has already slipped once. Considering this a stopgap

Northernboy

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12,642 posts

259 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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essayer said:
Is there any second hand market for these at all? We're in 4G land until Gigaclear install our road, which is supposedly Q4 but has already slipped once. Considering this a stopgap
Mine will be getting sold on in a few weeks (hopefully) once my 1Gbps fibre installation is finished.

It’s only “hopefully” as the installers ignored the comms cupboard and the distribution centre in the house in favour of nailing the box to the outside wall of the house and assuming we’ll happily have the router on the other side halfway up the wall three floors away from the main Ethernet switch.

ecs

1,248 posts

172 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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essayer said:
Is there any second hand market for these at all? We're in 4G land until Gigaclear install our road, which is supposedly Q4 but has already slipped once. Considering this a stopgap
Don't hold your breath r.e. Gigaclear - we were told 6 months and it took 2 years. Our neighbours who have it find it pretty unreliable too.

I'm waiting for my Starlink dish and have my fingers crossed that it's going to be fast and reliable smile

Leithen

11,196 posts

269 months

Friday 20th August 2021
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Just had an order confirmed for Edinburgh (55.9N). Pre ordered in May.

An earlier Pre order (March) for further north (56.3 N) hasn't converted yet - which is frustrating as someone's just cut through our DSL and it looks like Tuesday before a fix... grumpy

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Got it up and running in 5 minutes and am seeing 150-225Mbps on the download and 30-40ms consistently

Very impressed!

Now to integrate it with my multi-WAN router where it will be my fourth internet services in addition to 2 x LTE and 1 x fixed wireless - hopefully I am now at the point where I can start getting rid of the least worst service.


Truffles

579 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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ecs said:
essayer said:
Is there any second hand market for these at all? We're in 4G land until Gigaclear install our road, which is supposedly Q4 but has already slipped once. Considering this a stopgap
Don't hold your breath r.e. Gigaclear - we were told 6 months and it took 2 years. Our neighbours who have it find it pretty unreliable too.

I'm waiting for my Starlink dish and have my fingers crossed that it's going to be fast and reliable smile
We had a firm order in after they promised to fibre up the entire village, but they only did a few roads and then left, never to return.

ecs

1,248 posts

172 months

Monday 23rd August 2021
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Truffles said:
ecs said:
essayer said:
Is there any second hand market for these at all? We're in 4G land until Gigaclear install our road, which is supposedly Q4 but has already slipped once. Considering this a stopgap
Don't hold your breath r.e. Gigaclear - we were told 6 months and it took 2 years. Our neighbours who have it find it pretty unreliable too.

I'm waiting for my Starlink dish and have my fingers crossed that it's going to be fast and reliable smile
We had a firm order in after they promised to fibre up the entire village, but they only did a few roads and then left, never to return.
Sounds familiar!

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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I had my dish professionally fitted this morning and can thoroughly recommend the chaps who did it - they have cottoned onto what seems to be a fairly niche install and had exactly the right equipment for the job. They also travelled over 100 miles to get to me and were busy doing jobs all over the place.

https://spaceinternetinstallations.co.uk/index.php

bristolracer

5,569 posts

151 months

Saturday 28th August 2021
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theboss said:
I had my dish professionally fitted this morning and can thoroughly recommend the chaps who did it - they have cottoned onto what seems to be a fairly niche install and had exactly the right equipment for the job. They also travelled over 100 miles to get to me and were busy doing jobs all over the place.

https://spaceinternetinstallations.co.uk/index.php
If you dont mind me asking what are they charging for that? Where did they site the dish?

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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bristolracer said:
If you dont mind me asking what are they charging for that? Where did they site the dish?
£300 - it was situated on a 2m pole at roof level on the gable end of a barn conversion.

It's invisible from the front of the house.

The location is elevated and frequently exposed to 70mph+ gusts in winter storms so I asked for it to be fairly sturdy - no form over function rubbish.

Everything you can see in the pic is PoE powered with all the wires running back to a UPS and a multi-wan router in the loft.



The chap was annoyed there was a slight mismatch between the black pole and the dark grey of the dish and cable - apparently Starlink have only just changed this from black and he's in the process of having new poles powder-coated to match. I wasn't bothered in the slightest!

Edited by theboss on Sunday 29th August 11:48

bristolracer

5,569 posts

151 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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Thanks

As an aerial and satellite installer it's an area I'm keen to break into.
I've being doing a fair bit of 4g but it has issues I think this will be popular with broadband poor customers.

theboss

6,955 posts

221 months

Sunday 29th August 2021
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bristolracer said:
Thanks

As an aerial and satellite installer it's an area I'm keen to break into.
I've being doing a fair bit of 4g but it has issues I think this will be popular with broadband poor customers.
Good luck - it certainly seems like a good thing for an aerial installer to get into - you don't need to worry so much about any IT skills its far more about the quality of erection smile

Leithen

11,196 posts

269 months

Thursday 2nd September 2021
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Leithen said:
Just had an order confirmed for Edinburgh (55.9N). Pre ordered in May.

An earlier Pre order (March) for further north (56.3 N) hasn't converted yet - which is frustrating as someone's just cut through our DSL and it looks like Tuesday before a fix... grumpy
56.3N Perthshire pre-order has just converted to full order too. Edinburgh kit has arrived but awaiting correct mounting kit for city centre roof before we can get it up and running.

megaphone

10,805 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd September 2021
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Leithen said:
Leithen said:
Just had an order confirmed for Edinburgh (55.9N). Pre ordered in May.

An earlier Pre order (March) for further north (56.3 N) hasn't converted yet - which is frustrating as someone's just cut through our DSL and it looks like Tuesday before a fix... grumpy
56.3N Perthshire pre-order has just converted to full order too. Edinburgh kit has arrived but awaiting correct mounting kit for city centre roof before we can get it up and running.
Any reason you're going for this in a city like Edinburgh? Surely there is good, stable, 'wired' BB available for much less money?

Leithen

11,196 posts

269 months

Friday 3rd September 2021
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megaphone said:
Leithen said:
Leithen said:
Just had an order confirmed for Edinburgh (55.9N). Pre ordered in May.

An earlier Pre order (March) for further north (56.3 N) hasn't converted yet - which is frustrating as someone's just cut through our DSL and it looks like Tuesday before a fix... grumpy
56.3N Perthshire pre-order has just converted to full order too. Edinburgh kit has arrived but awaiting correct mounting kit for city centre roof before we can get it up and running.
Any reason you're going for this in a city like Edinburgh? Surely there is good, stable, 'wired' BB available for much less money?
Starlink is, remarkably, the lowest cost option for one of our businesses on Rose Street. We've managed to use BT Fibre and Virgin Cable in all our other city centre premises for sub £100 month. BT, despite having an exchange on Rose Street, will not offer standard fibre however on the street. Leased line etc no problem. Virgin, who is using the old Telewest cable network, never cabled the section of Rose Street this property is on. City Fibre is now an option, but £200+ a month.

Luckily the roof appears to have clear sightlines, so we're going to give Starlink a shot.


e-honda

9,032 posts

148 months

Friday 3rd September 2021
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I thought it was still only for residential use

e-honda

9,032 posts

148 months

Friday 3rd September 2021
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The reason they can't offer standard fttc near the exchange is because the connections tend to terminate directly in the exchange never going into a cabinet. They won't operate VDSL termination equipment inside the exchange due to concerns about interference.
I used to have an office that had this problem.

megaphone

10,805 posts

253 months

Friday 3rd September 2021
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Leithen said:
megaphone said:
Leithen said:
Leithen said:
Just had an order confirmed for Edinburgh (55.9N). Pre ordered in May.

An earlier Pre order (March) for further north (56.3 N) hasn't converted yet - which is frustrating as someone's just cut through our DSL and it looks like Tuesday before a fix... grumpy
56.3N Perthshire pre-order has just converted to full order too. Edinburgh kit has arrived but awaiting correct mounting kit for city centre roof before we can get it up and running.
Any reason you're going for this in a city like Edinburgh? Surely there is good, stable, 'wired' BB available for much less money?
Starlink is, remarkably, the lowest cost option for one of our businesses on Rose Street. We've managed to use BT Fibre and Virgin Cable in all our other city centre premises for sub £100 month. BT, despite having an exchange on Rose Street, will not offer standard fibre however on the street. Leased line etc no problem. Virgin, who is using the old Telewest cable network, never cabled the section of Rose Street this property is on. City Fibre is now an option, but £200+ a month.

Luckily the roof appears to have clear sightlines, so we're going to give Starlink a shot.
Interesting, let us know how you get on. Are you going to have a back-up service?