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SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

83 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Well a few days in for me and I do like the instantaneous ability to just ask for any album ever, and Alexa plays it.

I'll look into the lighting stuff for sure but what has surprised me is how useful the shopping list thing is. Just say what you want and it appears a day or so later. Way more useful than I thought it would be. I think the wife is involved somehow but I'm not interested in what goes on behind the scenes.

Quick question. I know that the cheap music deal only works on one device, so can I buy a Dot and just use it as what would effectively be a microphone in another room? Echo lives in the kitchen, Dot would live in the lounge. I don't want to listen to music from the Dot.

Gary C

12,610 posts

181 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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LeadFarmer said:
page3 said:
We’re finding Alexa quite good although not for what we were expecting too.

Music integration is utterly terrible and we now don’t bother. Classical is laughably badly recognised. Apple Music doesn’t work at all. Spotify just shouts obscenities.

Sonos support is poor. Renaming devices doesn’t work. I don’t want to “play living room” I want to “play Sonos”. No can do.
Mine works perfectly when I say "Alexa, play radio two on Sonos" or "Alexa, play Queen, A Kind of Magic on Sonos".

I do have to specify it being played on Sonos though, as it will play on the Dot otherwise and I don't think there's a way to set a default speaker.
and whe you have more than one sonos zone, it makes no sense to say play on sonos. However, they are working on making a dot default to a specific sonos zone. This will not only make it easier to play music in the area you are in, but it will also stop the annoying mass mute that occurs on every zone while you command your dot.

i do find it difficult though to understand why its taking them so long. I assume it was down to the Amazon SDK or similar not being released to sonos early, but they do seem to swim in treacle.

I mean, I found, solved, programmed and tested software to control a nuclear reactor while refuelling in less than 6 months, and the QA on that was much higher than any multi room music system.

RammyMP

6,816 posts

155 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I've just got a Dot for my birthday. I find it irritating that I now need to subscribe to another music service as Apple Music (which I find to be pretty poor anyway) isn't compatible.

I'm now going to buy some TP Link plugs to turn the lights on and off!

ecsrobin

17,283 posts

167 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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RammyMP said:
I've just got a Dot for my birthday. I find it irritating that I now need to subscribe to another music service as Apple Music (which I find to be pretty poor anyway) isn't compatible.

I'm now going to buy some TP Link plugs to turn the lights on and off!
Bin off Apple Music and get amazon music. I’ve used Spotify, amazon, Apple and google music. Personally I think amazon is the best one to use.

Shnozz

27,577 posts

273 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ecsrobin said:
RammyMP said:
I've just got a Dot for my birthday. I find it irritating that I now need to subscribe to another music service as Apple Music (which I find to be pretty poor anyway) isn't compatible.

I'm now going to buy some TP Link plugs to turn the lights on and off!
Bin off Apple Music and get amazon music. I’ve used Spotify, amazon, Apple and google music. Personally I think amazon is the best one to use.
Exactly. I was paying for all 3 services and binned off Apple. I have Amazon music as part of prime but just pay for Spotify in addition. Its worthy of the additional cost.

V8 Animal

5,932 posts

212 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Alexa down in Seat cars yikes

Nigel_O

2,930 posts

221 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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AnotherGuy said:
Thread derail : Just out of interest - why LightWaveRF?
I did two or three hours of research before ordering. From what I managed to find out on t’internet, the light wave stuff looks good, is reliable, has a decent mobile app and interfaces well with the Echo

I already have led lamps in the vast majority of my light fittings, so I didn’t want to splash out on Hue (I have no interest in coloured lamps - just on/off and dim). I have three or four ceiling light fittings I want to control (easy with LWRF) - the rest are all plug-in devices, so half a dozen LWRF plugs will do the trick.

They should turn up tomorrow, so I’ll have a play and report back.

In the meantime, the Echo turned up today - exceptionally easy to set up. Even Wifey is mildly impressed with how easy it is to use.

I’ve also linked it with my son’s Spotify Premium account, which which it works perfectly well.

Most impressive is the accuracy - “she” rarely misses a request (we’re already referring to her as “she” because mentioning her name wakes her up....)

tenohfive

6,276 posts

184 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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El stovey said:
Is there a reason people seem to be buying hue stuff?

There are loads of smart bulbs around that are cheaper and don’t require a bridge.

I got a free hue bulb with my echo plus and it’s ok but no better than my other smart bulbs plus you can only control it on the echo app not the other one I use for all my other smart devices.
That's mainly it - there were a lot of deals around BF with Hue bulbs that put them cheaper than the alternatives like Innr or Tradfri. I've got a mix of Hue and Hive bulbs connected to my ST hub; they all work the same, so I don't really care what I get.

gr1340

980 posts

205 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I took advantage of the 2 Echo Show’s for £160 and I’m very impressed.
It sounds as good or better than the original Echo but being able to watch prime video is a great alternative to music which I don’t really listen to much.
When it’s not being used it scrolls through my photos which the kids like the see and displays any timers and reminders on the screen which is helpful.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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gr1340 said:
I took advantage of the 2 Echo Show’s for £160 and I’m very impressed.
It sounds as good or better than the original Echo but being able to watch prime video is a great alternative to music which I don’t really listen to much.
When it’s not being used it scrolls through my photos which the kids like the see and displays any timers and reminders on the screen which is helpful.
I was going to get that but thank god it had run out before I could. The show looks good but I don’t need one, let alone two of them.

Please can people stop posting tempting links for stuff I don’t need. hehe

B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Echo Spot looks nifty. Usual caveat about cameras in bedrooms aside.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16375186/amazon...

carreauchompeur

17,864 posts

206 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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El stovey said:
I was going to get that but thank god it had run out before I could. The show looks good but I don’t need one, let alone two of them.

Please can people stop posting tempting links for stuff I don’t need. hehe
Ditto rofl very nearly bit the bullet as I couldn't think of a good reason not to. I definitely do not need them!

LarryUSA

4,319 posts

258 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Nigel_O said:
Most impressive is the accuracy - “she” rarely misses a request (we’re already referring to her as “she” because mentioning her name wakes her up....)
We changed our wake word to Echo to avoid this, so we can call her Alexa without waking it up. Stops people messing with it or the TV sound starting it off too...

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

83 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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LarryUSA said:
Nigel_O said:
Most impressive is the accuracy - “she” rarely misses a request (we’re already referring to her as “she” because mentioning her name wakes her up....)
We changed our wake word to Echo to avoid this, so we can call her Alexa without waking it up. Stops people messing with it or the TV sound starting it off too...
I found that changing to "computer" was nowhere near as reliable as "Alexa". I know you can do voice training but we've stuck with Alexa for now.

Before I bought it I assumed you could make anything your wake word... shame :-(

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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They really need to introduce a setting where you can stop Alexa saying OK when it does something.

chasingracecars

1,696 posts

99 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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El stovey said:
They really need to introduce a setting where you can stop Alexa saying OK when it does something.
I find that useful for turning on devices I can’t see, Alexa confirms she has done something.

tedmus

1,887 posts

137 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chasingracecars said:
I find that useful for turning on devices I can’t see, Alexa confirms she has done something.
Yes but she also confirms things when she hasn't done them in my experience, I end up getting narky with her laugh

sas62

5,665 posts

80 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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tedmus said:
Yes but she also confirms things when she hasn't done them in my experience, I end up getting narky with her laugh
Same. I have an upstairs heater that Alexa confirms she has switched on. Fortunately I can hear it through the floor so even though Alexa confirms OK, I can hear when it has not been switched on.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

249 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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SCEtoAUX said:
Before I bought it I assumed you could make anything your wake word... shame :-(
Agreed. I'd quite liked to have been able to call her Dave.

Cotty

39,709 posts

286 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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B17NNS said:
Agreed. I'd quite liked to have been able to call her Dave.
Is that so you can change your automatic garage opener to Pod Bay Doors.