Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

[jmorgan]

Cant see this being resolved on this phone then?


However,
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/28/apple-iphone-...

$29 for a out of warranty battery change?

[Cobnapint]

techguyone said:

Cobnapint said:

Interesting article here.

https://www.snopes.com/harvard-study-apple-iphones...

Indeed, it has been known for a long time that people have complained that iphones go slow - just around the time a new iphone is released.

Yes, funny that - how they decided to be kind to everyone's batteries just before the release of a new handset.

Very thoughtful.

Lying fkers.

[Cobnapint]

Oh, and they're going to release a software update in Jan 2018 to give users a better understanding of the health of their iPhone battery.

Reading between the lines, that'll be the removal of the sneaky software.

http://news.sky.com/story/apple-apologises-for-slo...

[RobDickinson]

they'll just block benchmark apps

[Burwood]

Not a bad outcome, though. A cheap official battery. No need to upgrade so quickly

[Cobnapint]

bazza white said:

Even if you change the battery are they changing the coding that throttles at the same time.

Exactly. How does the phone know its a new battery and not the old one thats been fully charged by other means. Unless theres some indentifying electronics within the battery there's no way it would know - apart from comparing load/discharge rates and then deciding to unthrottle the clock speed.

[jmorgan]

I expect almost every item in the phone has a fingerprint for the software. Apart from screws and all that.

[Cobnapint]

The US courts 'should' be having a field day with this.

VW was forced to pay out billions because it cheated on it's emissions figures, and people went to jail.

Apple is also cheating. Will they be treated the same way and will iPhone owners be compensated financially like VAG diesel engine customers were in the US. I doubt it.

[RobDickinson]

VAG specifically cheated against national government rules.
There are no specific rules that apple have broken.

VAG breaking the rules damaged peoples health.

Not quite the same thing.

[Rawwr]

Cobnapint said:

Exactly. How does the phone know its a new battery and not the old one thats been fully charged by other means. Unless theres some indentifying electronics within the battery there's no way it would know - apart from comparing load/discharge rates and then deciding to unthrottle the clock speed.

I imagine it's all purely based on the voltage, which is easily measurable. As the voltage drops, the devices throttles to compensate for it. When you stick in a brand new battery, which is again capable of putting out the correct voltage, the device readjusts. Assuming the iPhone battery puts out 3.8V when fresh, I guess it wouldn't take much of a dip for the device to determine that it's tired and start to throttle, maybe 3.4V and maybe completely tired at 3.1V.

It would also explain why the device doesn't become unthrottled when on a mains charger because it's only using the reading from the battery itself to determine state.

Or something like that.

[Cobnapint]

RobDickinson said:

VAG specifically cheated against national government rules.
There are no specific rules that apple have broken.

VAG breaking the rules damaged peoples health.

Not quite the same thing.

No specific rules...? They've deliberately reduced the specification of an item they sold to millions of customers - without their consent. They must have broken an American version of the Sales of Goods Act somewhere along the line, surely. They love stuff like this.

[Rawwr]

RobDickinson said:

VAG specifically cheated against national government rules.
There are no specific rules that apple have broken.

They have. If the case in France proves they introduced planned obsolescence, that's incredibly serious and they won't get away with a slap on the wrist; that's jail time and Himalayan fines.

[bitchstewie]

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[Cobnapint]

If Apple have a stand at the CES in Vegas in a couple of weeks time, all the folks working on it should be made to wear Pinocchio masks - long nose versions.

Save battery life my fking arse.

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Rawwr said:

If the case in France proves they introduced planned obsolescence,

Quite the opposite though. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity.

[Rawwr]

page3 said:

Rawwr said:

If the case in France proves they introduced planned obsolescence,

Quite the opposite though. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity.

The customers didn't buy the device for the battery.

[hyphen]

RobDickinson said:

There are no specific rules that apple have broken.

Got to love it when some internet warrior believes he know the rules and regulations of every country run the world

[hyphen]

Cobnapint said:

If Apple have a stand at the CES in Vegas in a couple of weeks time, all the folks working on it should be made to wear Pinocchio masks - long nose versions.

Save battery life my fking arse.

Apple refuse to attend CES.

Launching at the same time may get people to realise their phones aren't worth the 40% profit margins.

[hyphen]

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Rawwr said:

page3 said:

Rawwr said:

If the case in France proves they introduced planned obsolescence,

Quite the opposite though. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity.

The customers didn't buy the device for the battery.

Battery longevity = device longevity.

This is why I still run an original iPad, iPhone 3GS, 5s, 6, 6S, iPad Air 1, iPad mini 2 and Apple Watch version 1, amongst other more recent devices. All are working great.