Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'

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Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Battery longevity = device longevity.
Just... no. The battery is a replaceable, consumable component. The device (as in the product) does not die because the battery dies.

Cobnapint

8,649 posts

153 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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It's like being in a controlling relationship. fk that.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Just seen on the news that Apple have apologised.

How can anyone justify buying their products when things like this emerge? Even the fanboys can't defend this.

I know plenty of people will and Apple will continue to sell plenty.

Quite funny really. Its a bit like the VW diesel emissions cheat. hehe

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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funkyrobot said:
Even the fanboys can't defend this.
But, my word, they're trying.

page3

4,949 posts

253 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Rawwr said:
page3 said:
Battery longevity = device longevity.
Just... no. The battery is a replaceable, consumable component. The device (as in the product) does not die because the battery dies.
Disagree. The average consumer should not be messing around inside a consumer grade device.

page3

4,949 posts

253 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Rawwr said:
funkyrobot said:
Even the fanboys can't defend this.
But, my word, they're trying.
Rational people can though. Sensible battery management. Apple haters gotta hate.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Disagree. The average consumer should not be messing around inside a consumer grade device.
You're right, they shouldn't. They should be taking them to a service centre and getting them to change it but the user has to know that it's the battery which has failed on the not the device as a whole.

page3

4,949 posts

253 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Rawwr said:
page3 said:
Disagree. The average consumer should not be messing around inside a consumer grade device.
You're right, they shouldn't. They should be taking them to a service centre and getting them to change it but the user has to know that it's the battery which has failed on the not the device as a whole.
Apple can run remote diagnostics to determine this, assuming it isn't completely dead.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Rational people can though. Sensible battery management. Apple haters gotta hate.
I don't hate Apple, though?

I personally believe this particular action is sneaky, underhand and pretty indefensible. I also believe that Apple know this, hence the public apology. Apologies don't exactly fall out of Cupertino on a regular basis and some may deem this as enough of an admission of guilt.

And if you genuinely can't see why this is wrong, then nothing I say is going to convince you.

Edited by Rawwr on Friday 29th December 11:24

jmorgan

36,010 posts

286 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Still undecided however I think they went for size and form and engineered it as they came across issues. Not forgetting they probably have a load on test so would have known well in advance anyway. That is sneaky and underhanded.

Problem for me is I like the kit. I don't like all that they do, lack of headphone socket for example, that was a good move, for the coffers (I got the 6s rather than dick around with adapters or the ear bud things). The USB C on the MacBooks and basically removing any ability to tweak or repair desktops for the casual user because they want a better looking device. I could live with the same kit in tower form and would welcome it.

The time may well come though when I would have to jump ship but the cloud and Apple Photo and OS I really do place well above the opposition for my needs. Mr Cook is payed well enough, the firm is making massive profits, a good firm would change them for free perhaps?

Either way I think looks is tipping past user experience. Some of the live events have been cringingly sycophantic over the redesign of a screw (OK, maybe not).

BobToc

1,784 posts

119 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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I was pretty meh on this story when it first broke but it really seems like it’s picked up momentum. A reduction in our of warranty battery replacement is a good result of all of this.

Legacywr

12,289 posts

190 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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This has happened to my iPhone, I ran an update about 3 months ago, and since, it has been freezing every so often! frown

Cobnapint

8,649 posts

153 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Apple can run remote diagnostics to determine this, assuming it isn't completely dead.
Yeah right. Apple are right at the top of everybody's people you can trust list at the minute.

They are way too powerful. I hope it really gets handed to them.

techguyone

3,137 posts

144 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
page3 said:
Apple can run remote diagnostics to determine this, assuming it isn't completely dead.
Yeah right. Apple are right at the top of everybody's people you can trust list at the minute.

They are way too powerful. I hope it really gets handed to them.
Unlikely, they are a protected species in the states, cuz Merican

dmsims

6,595 posts

269 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Burwood said:
Not a bad outcome, though. A cheap official battery. No need to upgrade so quickly
and if you have a 5SE ?

h0b0

7,766 posts

198 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Cobnapint said:
bazza white said:
Even if you change the battery are they changing the coding that throttles at the same time.
Exactly. How does the phone know its a new battery and not the old one thats been fully charged by other means. Unless theres some indentifying electronics within the battery there's no way it would know - apart from comparing load/discharge rates and then deciding to unthrottle the clock speed.
Mine did. It only took a minute for the phone to recognize the new battery. My battery may have been worse than most because there was a message in the battery settings saying it may need service. Once the new battery was in this went away.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

230 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Rawwr said:
funkyrobot said:
Even the fanboys can't defend this.
But, my word, they're trying.
Rational people can though. Sensible battery management. Apple haters gotta hate.
rofl

'We have noticed that your car is getting old. To preserve your engine, we are limiting the revs to 3000 and the speed it can do to 45mph.'

Just forward thinking car engine management, that. smile

Edited by funkyrobot on Friday 29th December 13:01

PHuzzy

2,747 posts

174 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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funkyrobot said:
page3 said:
Rawwr said:
funkyrobot said:
Even the fanboys can't defend this.
But, my word, they're trying.
Rational people can though. Sensible battery management. Apple haters gotta hate.
rofl

'We have noticed that your car is getting old. To preserve your engine, we are limiting the revs to 3000 and the speed it can do to 45mph.'

Just forward thinking car engine management, that. smile

Edited by funkyrobot on Friday 29th December 13:01
He'll probably think that's acceptable.

Or not comparable for some reason in the alternate world he must reside in.

8V085

670 posts

79 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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page3 said:
Rawwr said:
funkyrobot said:
Even the fanboys can't defend this.
But, my word, they're trying.
Rational people can though. Sensible battery management. Apple haters gotta hate.
Sensible battery management would mean having a warning/status on the battery health telling people "your battery is causing your phone to behave like this or the other, have it changed". Instead of this nanny fking about behind the scenes. Apple sheep gotta love getting fked from behind.

CAPP0

19,675 posts

205 months

Friday 29th December 2017
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Think this got lost at the bottom of a page - anyone?

CAPP0 said:
Question: given that I replaced the battery in my 6 this summer, if I upgrade would I get the better speeds or would their devious code require that I repeat the exercise again? To be fair, it wasn't difficult.