Apps - at what point is enough enough?

Apps - at what point is enough enough?

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devnull

3,757 posts

159 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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The only good thing about the car parking apps is the fact you can work them from CarPlay, so you can just press a few buttons on your screen to pay.

Hub

6,452 posts

200 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Parking apps are actually convenient (don't need to carry change, can top up without returning to the car etc)
I just wish there weren't so many! It can also fall flat if you end up in a car park without decent signal!

As for restaurants, it isn't yet compulsory. I suppose it does encourage loyalty though - then you don't have to clog up your phone with millions of restaurant apps!

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

233 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Gone the other way in the pub I work in. After seeing how much better we work without using an app, the boss is looking at getting rid in his other pubs.

I've been to one restaurant where app use was compulsory and the experience was ste.
I will not put up with that again.

I suppose apps are ok if you want to avoid flirting with the bar staff and queue jump at one of Big Tim's discount bingo halls of piss and glitter whilst ordering the same meal, again, for the umpteenth time but that just ain't my scene.

Baby.

Griffith4ever

4,389 posts

37 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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alock said:
I still haven't seen a car park that doesn't take coins or contactless.

Where are all these app-only car parks?
Dunster car park. No cash no cards app only.

No signal whatsoever, no WiFi. You have to walk into the town to get a signal to install the app, to return, to find you now need to go back again to enter your bay number where there is a signal. I got a tickets. I contested and won.

Same with a car park I used in Bristol last year. App only. Plenty of signal this time. I uninstalled the app as soon a I'd left. My old phone didn't have room for any more.

App car parks have not replaced "a man in a booth ". When was the last time anyone has seen one of those? They have replaced cash ticket machines.

anxious_ant

2,626 posts

81 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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This does sound like a golden oppurtunity for software developers out there. Have a "one app" that unifies all apps into one, just like the remote controlling multiple devices.

Brummiebeau

1,149 posts

94 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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I completely agree OP

In my phone I have 4 parking apps and 11 pubs apps. in the most case they don't really get used now but I dare take them off in case some busy body insists on them 1 time

Because of the amount of apps I now have all notifications off. I was sat next to someone the other day and their phone was pinging like mad for all sorts of bs notifications. I don't know how they cope.

paulrockliffe

15,779 posts

229 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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anxious_ant said:
This does sound like a golden oppurtunity for software developers out there. Have a "one app" that unifies all apps into one, just like the remote controlling multiple devices.
It's called Google Chrome. People prefer apps, because apps are better, so there are apps instead. Businesses prefer apps because they can better monitor their use and use that info to build better stuff for their customers and stay ahead of their competition.

It's just a fact of life that businesses respond to what people like and if you don't do what most people do you'll get a worse experience. Doesn't make you right though unfortunately. I like to rant about how st modern cars are for example, but they're clearly what most people want, no matter how bizarre it seems to me.

There is scope for centralisation of some stuff, but you need a market-leader to drive that. For example Google added train timetables to Google Maps and they're working on letting you pay for parking and train tickets from there too.

captain_cynic

12,303 posts

97 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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anxious_ant said:
This does sound like a golden oppurtunity for software developers out there. Have a "one app" that unifies all apps into one, just like the remote controlling multiple devices.
Naive developer: you know these 14 competing protocols..I'm going to write a protocol to unify them all.

Experienced Engineer: So... Soon there will be 15 competing protocols.

devnull

3,757 posts

159 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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captain_cynic said:
anxious_ant said:
This does sound like a golden oppurtunity for software developers out there. Have a "one app" that unifies all apps into one, just like the remote controlling multiple devices.
Naive developer: you know these 14 competing protocols..I'm going to write a protocol to unify them all.

Experienced Engineer: So... Soon there will be 15 competing protocols.


Oakey

27,618 posts

218 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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alock said:
I still haven't seen a car park that doesn't take coins or contactless.

Where are all these app-only car parks?
Some of the parking machines around here offer incentives for using the app. For example, you could park for 6hours for a quid if you used the app, or if you opted for cash or contactless it was about £7.

Obviously harvesting your data is more lucrative for them than you paying the extra £6 they'd make if you didn't use the app

2gins

2,839 posts

164 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Cliftonite said:
2gins said:
Beyond silly. The internet is becoming unusable. My bank now want me to enter my email address as well as a OTP for online purchases. Not so they can verify the address but the manner in which I type it in. It's got to the point where I just don't want to buy anything online. It'll be a debit card over the phone.
As for apps... they can all fk off. Had enough.
/rant etc
Same bank as mine, then? Their card will not now be used for online purchases!
Might well move banks over it. They'll probably all do it though.

Fore Left

1,427 posts

184 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Apps this, apps that. Chill. Grab a beer, get out in the sunshine and power wash the patio. Oh, wait...



banghead

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Apart from what was on the phone when i got it, ive downloaded one app. That doesnt work properly.

I fail to see the attraction.

monkfish1

11,165 posts

226 months

Friday 25th March 2022
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Bacon Is Proof said:
Gone the other way in the pub I work in. After seeing how much better we work without using an app, the boss is looking at getting rid in his other pubs.

I've been to one restaurant where app use was compulsory and the experience was ste.
I will not put up with that again.

I suppose apps are ok if you want to avoid flirting with the bar staff and queue jump at one of Big Tim's discount bingo halls of piss and glitter whilst ordering the same meal, again, for the umpteenth time but that just ain't my scene.

Baby.
I did have a well known automotive based pub try to tell me to order with an app.

Not happening. Cant be arsed to serrve me, i'll leave. They served me.

Nowhere that "requires" me to use an app will get my business.

romeodelta

1,125 posts

163 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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camel_landy said:
Joey Deacon said:
I work in IT and I am utterly sick of it too...
+1

If it needs an app, I vote with my feet.

M
How?

I currently have 5 MFA apps to log in to various systems and that doesn't include SMS.

3 parking apps and counting as well...

ARHarh

3,836 posts

109 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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The only shopping related app I have on my phone is the lidl app as i shop there every week, and it saves a few pennies. I have a Tesco card and never use the app. If I needed an app to shop or partake of services I would go somewhere else

MitchT

15,963 posts

211 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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Parking apps are a pain in the arse, not least because you may have to download and install a new one if you're at a car park you've not used before, which can be impossible if data coverage is poor. Why not just install a contactless payment facility on parking machines? It's like everything has to have a more complicated solution than is necessary.

camel_landy

4,944 posts

185 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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romeodelta said:
camel_landy said:
Joey Deacon said:
I work in IT and I am utterly sick of it too...
+1

If it needs an app, I vote with my feet.

M
How?

I currently have 5 MFA apps to log in to various systems and that doesn't include SMS.

3 parking apps and counting as well...
How?

...I simply say "No" and go elsewhere.

Consequently,I don't have ANY parking apps and only 1x MFA app, for work and it lives on my work phone.

M

paulrockliffe

15,779 posts

229 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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MitchT said:
Parking apps are a pain in the arse, not least because you may have to download and install a new one if you're at a car park you've not used before, which can be impossible if data coverage is poor. Why not just install a contactless payment facility on parking machines? It's like everything has to have a more complicated solution than is necessary.
Most of them have contactless as well.

The ones that have no signal are annoying, but chances are you're going somewhere once you've parked that does have signal, so you can sort it out there and you can do the old Parking Disc trick of gambling when the ticket inspector will turn up for a bit of bonus excitement.

Of course, if there's no other method of payment available and no mobile signal, you get to park for free, so isn't that the best option?

The main reason to use the app though is that you can extend your stay without having to go back to the car to get another ticket. You save money by putting an hour on where you're not sure if you need 1 or 2 and it ends up being 1. Especially if you gamble for a bonus 15 minutes.

Most of them let you use their website too. But here's the thing for the luddites - if you do that you will have to manually find the parking site on the website rather than letting your phone pick the right one using your location. The app is the better technical solution.

That said, there's at least one of the popular parking apps that is complete junk.

MitchT

15,963 posts

211 months

Monday 28th March 2022
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paulrockliffe said:
Most of them have contactless as well.
The one at my local train station doesn't. It's cash or app, and the signal on my phone is often "E" in that location and apps just say there's no internet connection. So, instead of catching a train to go shopping in my nearest city I stay at home and do it all online instead.