Discussion
Davie_GLA said:
I assume this is hyperbole at best but I'm in the market for a super torch.
Thoughts?
https://houored.com/products/led?variant=334509875...
I suspect utter junk. Some of the pictures are well known stolen ones from the flashlight community. And certainly are not of this torch. Overall they should probably be paying you to buy it.Thoughts?
https://houored.com/products/led?variant=334509875...
Davie_GLA said:
Thanks, you're right of course. Not that far away from a Wish product.
I don't need massive range, I'd like to be able to light a good area in front of me if I'm out with the dogs, I dunno, 14 metres throw with as much flood as possible?
If the dogs are off the lead and in a big space, you may find you'll want a lot more throw/range.I don't need massive range, I'd like to be able to light a good area in front of me if I'm out with the dogs, I dunno, 14 metres throw with as much flood as possible?
Flood is ok, but do you really need to see a wide area either side you in bright light? In the dark this can hamper your night vision and make it difficult to see beyond the torch light.
If you are in a more enclosed space it can make more sense. And if lighting your path when walking, something with a less intense hotspot will "jiggle" less and be nicer.
In terms of torches. Zoomy can give both flood and long range, but they are often limited overall. The long range will be more of a pencil/focused beam. And when on flood mode, they really do only light up the area in front of you. So you'd probably have to keep zooming it in and out for 15 metre ranges.
Do you want a big or a small torch and what sort of battery?
AA and D cell still exist. But generally under perform compared to Li-ion. The latter needs a special charger however and a bit more care.
If a D cell is ok, then Maglites are still pretty good, although probably more throwy than floody, but the big lens means they have a wide spill and will light up a fairly large area. But these are pricey in the UK.
AA's you will need to use good rechargeable batteries, alkaline will not do.
Personally Li-ion is the way. A single 18650 light will fit in a jeans pocket and will likely do everything you need exceptionally well.
This would do the job lovely:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886884532.html?s...
There is a choice of tints for the LED, slightly warmer tints (T6) will make green and brown things look more natural. The very white light tends to bleach such colours and make them look more grey.
If you think you'll want a little more range, then these are very good. Still pocket friendly, but a bit more throw. I tend to use one of these at harvest time, as it lights up stuff really well in the field when working at night.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/826041552.html?spm...
300bhp/ton said:
If the dogs are off the lead and in a big space, you may find you'll want a lot more throw/range.
Flood is ok, but do you really need to see a wide area either side you in bright light? In the dark this can hamper your night vision and make it difficult to see beyond the torch light.
If you are in a more enclosed space it can make more sense. And if lighting your path when walking, something with a less intense hotspot will "jiggle" less and be nicer.
In terms of torches. Zoomy can give both flood and long range, but they are often limited overall. The long range will be more of a pencil/focused beam. And when on flood mode, they really do only light up the area in front of you. So you'd probably have to keep zooming it in and out for 15 metre ranges.
Do you want a big or a small torch and what sort of battery?
AA and D cell still exist. But generally under perform compared to Li-ion. The latter needs a special charger however and a bit more care.
If a D cell is ok, then Maglites are still pretty good, although probably more throwy than floody, but the big lens means they have a wide spill and will light up a fairly large area. But these are pricey in the UK.
AA's you will need to use good rechargeable batteries, alkaline will not do.
Personally Li-ion is the way. A single 18650 light will fit in a jeans pocket and will likely do everything you need exceptionally well.
This would do the job lovely:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886884532.html?s...
There is a choice of tints for the LED, slightly warmer tints (T6) will make green and brown things look more natural. The very white light tends to bleach such colours and make them look more grey.
If you think you'll want a little more range, then these are very good. Still pocket friendly, but a bit more throw. I tend to use one of these at harvest time, as it lights up stuff really well in the field when working at night.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/826041552.html?spm...
Right then. It’s clear you are a danger to my wallet! Flood is ok, but do you really need to see a wide area either side you in bright light? In the dark this can hamper your night vision and make it difficult to see beyond the torch light.
If you are in a more enclosed space it can make more sense. And if lighting your path when walking, something with a less intense hotspot will "jiggle" less and be nicer.
In terms of torches. Zoomy can give both flood and long range, but they are often limited overall. The long range will be more of a pencil/focused beam. And when on flood mode, they really do only light up the area in front of you. So you'd probably have to keep zooming it in and out for 15 metre ranges.
Do you want a big or a small torch and what sort of battery?
AA and D cell still exist. But generally under perform compared to Li-ion. The latter needs a special charger however and a bit more care.
If a D cell is ok, then Maglites are still pretty good, although probably more throwy than floody, but the big lens means they have a wide spill and will light up a fairly large area. But these are pricey in the UK.
AA's you will need to use good rechargeable batteries, alkaline will not do.
Personally Li-ion is the way. A single 18650 light will fit in a jeans pocket and will likely do everything you need exceptionally well.
This would do the job lovely:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886884532.html?s...
There is a choice of tints for the LED, slightly warmer tints (T6) will make green and brown things look more natural. The very white light tends to bleach such colours and make them look more grey.
If you think you'll want a little more range, then these are very good. Still pocket friendly, but a bit more throw. I tend to use one of these at harvest time, as it lights up stuff really well in the field when working at night.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/826041552.html?spm...
. But thank you I will have a look. I thought I’d sort by “highest price” for a laugh. Madness...
Nigel_O said:
Davie_GLA said:
I don't need massive range, I'd like to be able to light a good area in front of me if I'm out with the dogs, I dunno, 14 metres throw with as much flood as possible?
Ah - you see - that's how it all starts....If you only need 15-ish metres of throw, then something small and light will suffice - £20 - £30 and 500-ish lumens will be plenty, although if you want to go for top quality, a Fenix PD35 is all the torch you'll ever need.
But then you'll go out with the dog and think "wouldn't it be nice to see a bit further?...." and all of a sudden you've spent £150 on a 4,000 lumen TM06s (which have come down in price qute a lot recently)
Most of the the time I use it with just the flood on at setting 2 (150 lumens 27 hours runtime) single button push to get everything on full welly with 1800 lumens. On anything but the darkest and wettest of nights both leds on 2 or 3 is more than adequate.
Downsides? As said no lightweight, 430 grams plus batteries. Buttons are quite small when you have thick gloves on in winter but you get the hang of it. Not cheap, but I got mine at 50% off on a deal.
Ok if you really need a wall of light and to set the hedges on fire then our TM06S is a beast, daughter prefers that one as smaller and lighter. Gets a bit too warm when on setting 5, too hot to hold, have literally set stuff on fire with it and melted artificial fibre cloth too.
Amusingly, when you're out and about at night and encounter the friendly scallywags out lamping, they have been known to try and intimidate with their massive lamp with 100w halogen car bulbs in. A set of carefully aimed TK51 and TM06S wins the dick waving contest everytime and they generally slink away complaining that they can't see, when in reality it was them starting the blind the other party contest.
As others said, buying good torches, slippery slope.
I have a few different Olights - I got a bit addicted - I decided I needed one in the car, then the other car, then in a different place at home, it's a very slippery slope. I'm recovered now, but only since someone recognised one of the torches & mentioned there price in front of my wife......
For walking the dogs though, LED collars from eBay are an absolute winner and very entertaining to watch.
For walking the dogs though, LED collars from eBay are an absolute winner and very entertaining to watch.
Dermot O'Logical said:
Pity the colours are crap. Diplomatico said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
Pity the colours are crap. The Mad Monk said:
Diplomatico said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
Pity the colours are crap. 
https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
Carbon Sasquatch said:
If you're looking for better overall value - spend the extra £45 on the bundle
https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
Limited to one per customer. That's no good. I want to buy several.https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
The Mad Monk said:
Carbon Sasquatch said:
If you're looking for better overall value - spend the extra £45 on the bundle
https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
Limited to one per customer. That's no good. I want to buy several.https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
Carbon Sasquatch said:
For walking the dogs though, LED collars from eBay are an absolute winner and very entertaining to watch.
Off topic but it's fascinating to watch how fast they cover the ground in conditions where we need a torch just to walk slowly.When himself has his collar with the blue led strobe going and he spots a rabbit, it's like watching a mini police unit traversing the heath on a grade one shout.
It was also amusing the first time we encountered the local drug dealer meeting one of his clients. I guess total darkness, two folks with bright torches and a big woofy dog complete with flashing blues could be a bit unsettling for him.
The Mad Monk said:
Is that really 106 pounds worth of torch?
Depends on your view point really. I have several Olight torches, they are quite nice. But you can often get something very nice for a fraction of the cost.I also hate marketing BS like this "costs less than 4 pennies per lumen"
I would not buy on principle of such utter meaningless nonsense.
I also struggle to see how an orange torch can really be called Desert Tan
Propriety battery is a big turn off too. And I suspect like many so called "premium" torches, the colour tint will be gash and they give you no choice.
If I was wanting to spend that kind of money I'd probably go for something more like this:
http://www.zebralight.com/SC700d-21700-XHP702-Neut...
Smaller torch and maybe not as much throw. But probably a much better buy overall.
Or save a load of money and go for something like this if you want a larger torch:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000439719681.html...
Slightly different spec/design to the Olight, but I'm willing to bet it wouldn't disappoint side by side
Ended up buying a LEP flashlight with a beam throw of over a mile in February from China but the order was cancelled due to the Coronavirus , just got a back in stock notification but the prices have gone up $50 
Was this light for anyone interested
https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/elp05...
I've got two olights but doubt I'd get another as the quality of cheaper brands has increased substantially over the past couple of years.
Was this light for anyone interested
https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/elp05...
300bhp/ton said:
I also hate marketing BS like this "costs less than 4 pennies per lumen"
I would not buy on principle of such utter meaningless nonsense.
Agree, it does them no favours I'd expect such nonsense from some cheap brand.I would not buy on principle of such utter meaningless nonsense.
I've got two olights but doubt I'd get another as the quality of cheaper brands has increased substantially over the past couple of years.
Carbon Sasquatch said:
If you're looking for better overall value - spend the extra £45 on the bundle
https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
Out of interest, and I'm sure I'm opening myself up for all sorts of torch education but assuming a lumen, is a lumen, is a lumen and if the torch uses one of the single, high power and capacity batteries then what makes this worth almost 3 times as much as a torch with the same brightness and battery but bought from a less known or branded outfit?https://www.olightstore.uk/big-family-bundle.html
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