Mac Time Machine

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ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Not using Time Machine. There may be other applications available that do the job though.

Leithen

11,130 posts

269 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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mrmaggit said:
So, as I don't feel I need an external hard drive for storage, basically the Mac doesn't have "System Restore" (finally remembered what the utility was called) on it anywhere.
Two things follow from this - first you are choosing not to backup your machine to an external disk, which is generally a bad idea - your internal disk is liable to fail - happens to all disks in all flavours of OS. That's fine if you don't mind losing data, but be aware that many disk failures will leave it impossible/uneconomic to retrieve data.

Secondly, the Mac operating system, OSX, is designed differently from Windows (unsurprisingly). Without going near the OSX vs Windows debate (mods - can we please have a sticky thread for pointless name calling/dick waving to be relegated to?), the OSX design separates system files and user files. This makes it very easy to install and uninstall programs and also to reinstall the OS without loss of data.

So to answer your original question, no OSX does not have a "System Restore" function identical to Windows - instead it has something called "Archive and Install".

Archive and Install involves using your original Mac OSX system disk (CD/DVD) and selecting the option that will retain your user files, archive your old system files, and reinstall a new system from scratch.

If you are going to go down this route, make sure you read the support documents and follow the instructions carefully - you do not want to Erase and Install by mistake.....

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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mrmaggit said:
So, as I don't feel I need an external hard drive for storage, basically the Mac doesn't have "System Restore" (finally remembered what the utility was called) on it anywhere.
Well, if you don't feel the need for a back-up, then just do a system restore with the OS DVD that came with the computer.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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ewenm said:
Not using Time Machine. There may be other applications available that do the job though.
Yes, it does, but it's a bit different to how Windows System Restore works.

To use it, you boot off your OS X DVD, with your Time Machine disk attached, and choose to restore your system. It shows you what backups are available and at what OS revision each one is.

If you restore, it restores the OS (and applications) as well as your own files.

I did this a while back to recover from a - and please, pardon my use of technical jargon - well fked wireless driver that Software Update installed.

I rolled back to the previous revision of OS X, then picked up the files that had been created or changed since that backup by plucking them out of the more recent backups.

Edited by CommanderJameson on Thursday 30th September 13:39

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

228 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Blue Meanie said:
**Click on 'Select Dick'...
>snigger<

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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CommanderJameson said:
Blue Meanie said:
**Click on 'Select Dick'...
>snigger<
Damn... Foiled! Clearly a raving pervert here! Anyway, must go, have to give ACS:Law 450 notes...

mrmaggit

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10,146 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Thanks for all your replies, as you can see, it's a bad idea for some people to be turned loose on a computer!

I'm not really THAT concerned if the thing blows up, because all the stuff that we want to keep is also either on memory cards or CD's anyway.

I was just wondering if OSX (see something else I've learned) had a system retore, obviously it has but in a different way (typical Apple). I've installed some updates that have appeared since Monday, which have pretty much solved the gliches I've been having.

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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mrmaggit said:
Thanks for all your replies, as you can see, it's a bad idea for some people to be turned loose on a computer!

I'm not really THAT concerned if the thing blows up, because all the stuff that we want to keep is also either on memory cards or CD's anyway.

I was just wondering if OSX (see something else I've learned) had a system retore, obviously it has but in a different way (typical Apple). I've installed some updates that have appeared since Monday, which have pretty much solved the gliches I've been having.
Do you expect all cars to have the same user interfaces (should they all have iDrive for example, heaven forbid hehe) or do you spend time getting used to a new car's systems when you get it? Why would a new computer be any different?

qube_TA

8,402 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Isn't Farmville a Flash-based browser game?

If so what's it got to do with Apple, Time Machine or OSX?




mrmaggit

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10,146 posts

250 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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ewenm said:
mrmaggit said:
Thanks for all your replies, as you can see, it's a bad idea for some people to be turned loose on a computer!

I'm not really THAT concerned if the thing blows up, because all the stuff that we want to keep is also either on memory cards or CD's anyway.

I was just wondering if OSX (see something else I've learned) had a system retore, obviously it has but in a different way (typical Apple). I've installed some updates that have appeared since Monday, which have pretty much solved the gliches I've been having.
Do you expect all cars to have the same user interfaces (should they all have iDrive for example, heaven forbid hehe) or do you spend time getting used to a new car's systems when you get it? Why would a new computer be any different?
Horses for courses. I'm not at all interested in how the computer works, just that it does work.

I realise that may be sacrilidge to some computer users, but there we are.

Crashing my computer is hardly likely to cause person injury, after all! ;o)

If it dies, it goes in the bin and I'll get a new one.

qube_TA

8,402 posts

247 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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can I have it.

mrmaggit

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Thursday 30th September 2010
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qube_TA said:
Isn't Farmville a Flash-based browser game?

If so what's it got to do with Apple, Time Machine or OSX?
I don't know, that's why I came on here for advice as to what to do/should I do, and if anybody could "shine a light" on solving my problem.

As I've said before, I'm not really clued up/interested in the technical stuff, just asking for the largesse of the PH pooter club in pointing me in the right direction, which, generally you all have been of help, for which I thank you.

mrmaggit

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Thursday 30th September 2010
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qube_TA said:
can I have it.
If it dies, I'll get a new one and you're welcome to the old box. You might have to blow the rabbit fluff out of it, though.

Come to think of it, it mght be the rabbit fluff that's caused all the problems!

;o)