Nvidia RTX 4000 Launch

[FourWheelDrift]

Some resizable bar off / on test and 60% vs 100% Cyberpunk power benchmarks

Rebar off - 60% power - 131fps



Rebar on - 60% power - 137fps



Rebar on - 100% power - 141fps

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

Some resizable bar off / on test and 60% vs 100% Cyberpunk power benchmarks
Rebar off - 60% power - 131fps
Rebar on - 60% power - 137fps
Rebar on - 100% power - 141fps

How low dare you go?

I did something similar, but just for power limits, and on a WQHD screen, but couldn't be bothered en/dis-abling re-bar

100% - 118 FPS


80% - 112 FPS


60% - 112 FPS

Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 11th July 19:40

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

Odd that the top light in the surround is RGB but the Geforce RTX on the side is white only.

Can you control that top light, as mine just seems to stay white?

[FourWheelDrift]

mmm-five said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Odd that the top light in the surround is RGB but the Geforce RTX on the side is white only.

Can you control that top light, as mine just seems to stay white?

I have an Asus motherboard so I installed the (not Armoury Crate because it's terrible) standalone Aura software and it recognised my Motherboard and the GPU as an Asus I think I also installed an Asus plugin too for the motherboard.

It's called Asus Aura Lighting_Control_1.07.84_v2 I have a copy I can upload if you need it and can't find it.
If you have another motherboard looks for Icue plugins.

It can do rainbow and colour shift but anything complicated ends up turning the white name light off and on.

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

I have an Asus motherboard so I installed the (not Armoury Crate because it's terrible) standalone Aura software and it recognised my Motherboard and the GPU as an Asus I think I also installed an Asus plugin too for the motherboard.

It's called Asus Aura Lighting_Control_1.07.84_v2 I have a copy I can upload if you need it and can't find it.
If you have another motherboard looks for Icue plugins.

It can do rainbow and colour shift but anything complicated ends up turning the white name light off and on.

That’s probably why then, as I had no end of trouble with ArmoryCrate, so completely wiped the system, disabled the auto-install in the BIOS, and started from scratch.

Have the Asus & Nvidia plug-ins enabled in iCUE though, and nothing shows up.

Never mind, it’s not that I can see much of the inside of the OC where it is anyway.

[FourWheelDrift]

Control of the Asus logo on the motherboard in Icue only worked after I installed the non-spammy standalone Aura Software (PC restart probably), and the GPU was recognised as soon as I put it in.

And this is where I got it from, first comment gdrive download -
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/mfc6tc/down...

I installed that, might have restarted the PC and there it was.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 11th July 20:24

[mmm-five]

FourWheelDrift said:

Control of the Asus logo on the motherboard in Icue only worked after I installed the non-spammy standalone Aura Software (PC restart probably), and the GPU was recognised as soon as I put it in.

And this is where I got it from, first comment gdrive download -
https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/mfc6tc/down...

I installed that, might have restarted the PC and there it was.

Thanks, at least I know I 'can' if I want to!

[Brainpox]

Prices have come down again

[FourWheelDrift]

4080 still not low enough.

4090 now cheaper than a 4080 though - https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-rog-strix-nvi...

[robbiekhan]

Lol who in their right mind would buy a 4080 at 1500, let alone the FE's RRP.

[Digby]

FourWheelDrift said:

Never realised there was a little light ring on the top fan surround.



Just got to order the Seasonic 12VHPWR cable now for my PSU.

Only just seen that. Is hard to see due to the huge heat sink. That said, I must be one of the only PC gamers who doesn't like lights all over the place.

All my mobo RGB stuff is off, the fan controller thing I have can be set to dozens of colours and they are all off, and I'm seriously contemplating getting a util to turn off the 4090 logo and then stick some tape over the Soundblaster lights on my AE-7. No disco running on my keyboard, no halo on the mouse, no rainbows on the ram and no lights on the fans. Each to their own of course!

[FourWheelDrift]

simonwhite2000 said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Who's 12VHPWR cable is that, extension or PSU replacement?

PSU replacement from Cable Mod. Still not sure if I should also get the 180 degree adaptor

I managed to find a UK supplier of the official Seasonic 12VHPWR PSU replacement cable so I've ordered one of those.

[FourWheelDrift]

4060 Ti 16GB not looking like any value, basically same performance as the 4060 Ti few more fps at 4k in texture heavy games but apart from that utterly pointless.

4060 Ti 16GB - Asus Rog Strix is £594.98 at Scan.
4060 Ti 8GB - Gigabyte Eagle is £389.99 at Scan.

Readily available RTX 4070 Founders Edition is £569.

[FourWheelDrift]

Techpowerup has reviewed it.

"RTX 4060 Ti 16GB Marginally Slower than 8GB Model: MSI Testing"

https://www.techpowerup.com/311435/rtx-4060-ti-16g...

[Donbot]

Seems all the '8Gb is not enough' screeching was overblown then.

Still doesn't excuse the clown pricing of both cards.

[robbiekhan]

The memory bus is still the same, 8 or 16 wouldn't matter, the bus can only handle so little. If it had a wider bus like the higher models then sure 16GB would show greater performance, much like how the modded 16GB 3070 did.

[Donbot]

robbiekhan said:

The memory bus is still the same, 8 or 16 wouldn't matter, the bus can only handle so little. If it had a wider bus like the higher models then sure 16GB would show greater performance, much like how the modded 16GB 3070 did.

Yeah, but the argument was about the amount of vram, not bus width. It's a splitting hairs argument though, as you could argue that the card could be made better in all sorts of ways.

From benchmarks of other cards 8Gb vram is fine unless you are looking to max stuff out at 4k. But that's not what a low/mid tier card is for.

[robbiekhan]

I don't think those arguing about only 8GB VRAM on that particular mode being the issue considered the lack of memory bus width. If they knew that the lack of a wide bus meant that even if it had 16GB, that the performance vs the 8GB would be basically nothing, then things would be different. People only saw the lack of 16GB and went "wtf!" without thinking about it from a technical level.

8 more GB for 100 more bucks for 0% gain lol.

It's Nvidia basically saying "you wanted a 16GB 4060, here have one" and technically they did exactly that.

The idea of more than 8GB VRAM is that you want to minimise the swapping to system RAM when the VRAM allocation hits its limit. At 8GB even at 1440P you will encounter this a lot in modern games. I see it all the time, 8-10GB is the norm for dedicated game usage alone, whilst the OS and background apps consume up to 2GB VRAM without the need to cache to system RAM and swap around causing added latency and potential stutters etc when in a game and all that is going on.

Now the technical side of this statement is that on a 4060 Ti class card, you would not be able to run the same Ultra settings anyway because the card isn't powerful enough to maintain a good framerate, so using lower settings is a must and thus reducing the VRAM impact.

So that needs to be factored in too. It's simply not just a case of card x has 8GB and card y has 12GB, the capability of the card itself matters and will dictate if more or less VRAM is justified. In this case, you can't run games at settings that warrant more than 8GB, so releasing a 16GB 2060 class card is just silly and a waste of sand.

Edited by robbiekhan on Thursday 20th July 16:45

[Donbot]

I agree, that was the point I was making.

[robbiekhan]

Oh!