Apple admit to 'Slowing Down iPhones'
Discussion
amusingduck said:
page3 said:
Cobnapint said:
Still no news about Apple getting their just desserts for this farce. Wonder why that is.
Because to be blunt it really isn't an issue, except for the usual wingers. Reducing the peak performance to increase battery longevity is a good thing and recognised as such my many. Still, giving it a bit of spin sells papers. The cheap battery replacement policy is quick and easy. With the introduction of iOS 12* which specifically targets performance on older devices the longevity is increased further still.* The beta on my original Air is fantastic. So much better that iOS10 and 11 in every way, and it's only beta 1
The spin is Apple telling people that they secretly gimped their devices for their own good. Surprisingly, some people are actually willing to believe this.
They deceived their customers into believing that their device was too outdated to perform adequately, disguising that the real problem was a cheaply replaced knackered battery. This happened just after they launched new models of the iPhone, in yet another unbelievable stroke of luck for Apple.
Android is a great alternative, so it's not as if Apple don't have decent competition. It's win/win for the consumer.
page3 said:
Well I clearly don't agree with this. Devices were not slowed down, their peak performance was managed in order to prolong device life. We weren't deceived in any way. The reality was older devices continued to work, and work well. We clearly aren't going to agree on this and that's OK with me if it's OK with you?
Android is a great alternative, so it's not as if Apple don't have decent competition. It's win/win for the consumer.
Devices were not slowed down....?Android is a great alternative, so it's not as if Apple don't have decent competition. It's win/win for the consumer.
Are you for f
king real or do you work for them...?ZesPak said:
Burwood said:
I can’t be bothered learning a new system. I would never buy Samsung. They’re worse. No fan boy but now have iMac, iPad, iphone, Apple Watch, MacBook.
This is probably a Troll, and I'm by no means a samsung fanboy as they are far from a morally superior company... but I've got 2 galaxy S2's here that are still in use, and while in no means "swift", I've had to sell my 4S for parts years ago.Anecdotal, I know, but a blanket statement of "they're worse" smells like fanboy all over.
As for the people who still believe that Apple actually did this to maintain battery life at an older age, what colour is the grass on your side of the event horizon?
frisbee said:
Cobnapint said:
Devices were not slowed down....?
Are you for fking real or do you work for them...?
Do you work for them? You constantly post on this thread!Are you for f
king real or do you work for them...?Edited by Cobnapint on Saturday 16th June 15:18
Burwood said:
First off, very few are denying Apple got caught red handed on the battery saga. I’m quick to criticise. Their products are very expensive but no one forces you to buy them. Regarding Samsung. What I mean by ‘worse’ is the family that run it. Corruption and tax evasion runs rife. The company bribed its way to success. It’s a fact and I choose not to buy their products.
Surely, if you're going to take a moral stance on which companies' products you buy, that's going to leave you with a very empty house? If you're going to cite ethical practice as a reason for having nothing to do with certain products, you'll be wanting to shovel all those Apple products into a skip at your earliest convenience.
Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.
I'm currently using a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S and it destroys the X in everything but the camera, which is almost identical in performance and all for the princely sum of £380.
The OS is almost the same too, no app drawer to worry about having to adjust to, not that it's difficult.
Saying it just works is fine if you're used to them being slow when brand new but comparing my 6S and girlfriends 7 to the Xiaomi it's ridiculous and now I won't ever be going back to Apple.
I'm currently using a Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S and it destroys the X in everything but the camera, which is almost identical in performance and all for the princely sum of £380.
The OS is almost the same too, no app drawer to worry about having to adjust to, not that it's difficult.
Saying it just works is fine if you're used to them being slow when brand new but comparing my 6S and girlfriends 7 to the Xiaomi it's ridiculous and now I won't ever be going back to Apple.
Rawwr said:
Burwood said:
First off, very few are denying Apple got caught red handed on the battery saga. I’m quick to criticise. Their products are very expensive but no one forces you to buy them. Regarding Samsung. What I mean by ‘worse’ is the family that run it. Corruption and tax evasion runs rife. The company bribed its way to success. It’s a fact and I choose not to buy their products.
Surely, if you're going to take a moral stance on which companies' products you buy, that's going to leave you with a very empty house? If you're going to cite ethical practice as a reason for having nothing to do with certain products, you'll be wanting to shovel all those Apple products into a skip at your earliest convenience.
tim0409 said:
Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?
Even day to day opening of apps, changing apps, load times is a lot quicker.Being able to open the camera and snap something quicker is an advantage at times.
I like to play a few different (high CPU/gpu use) games on my phone too which is where the main difference lies, lots of people don't game, I get that but then lots of people don't need the £1000+ iPhone X either when an SE would do the trick.
Rawwr said:
Burwood said:
It's a matter of degrees although I see your point
It's not a matter of degrees, it's a matter of bias. You won't skip your Apple products because you like them, which is totally understandable.
It's very fair (my views).If Apple committed some terrible crime then i would consider leaving the brand. If they did it again, and again, and again I wouldn't skip existing but wouldn't buy replacements. If Germany screws us on Brexit I won't buy their cars. Thats just me. Anyway back on topic
Burwood said:
If Apple committed some terrible crime then i would consider leaving the brand. If they did it again, and again, and again I wouldn't skip existing but wouldn't buy replacements. If Germany screws us on Brexit I won't buy their cars. Thats just me. Anyway back on topic
So you're ok with your phone being produced in a sweatshop where there have been multiple suicides due to the terrible working conditions? You're happy that Apple claim they only manufacturer via Foxconn because of the 'unique expertise' and not just because it's dirt-cheap labour where they pump out 350 phones a minute, leaving workers - including children - blistered and arthritic from overwork? Every single year since 2009 there have been suicides and audits revealing child labour. Apple are fully aware of the practices at Foxconn and they have the means to adjust their supply chain to resolve the issues. They don't because it's cheap and they had a shiny $5bn office to build.
Lots of manufacturers use Foxconn for production, so if you really want to take a moral stand, you should ditch any products produced through them and resolve to not purchase any others. A true protest might alleviate some of the dreadful conditions endured by a workforce the same size as the entire population of Bristol.
So yeah, Apple are pretty terrible for using Foxconn, more terrible for being complicit in their practices and they've done it again and again and again.
If you're going to take a moral stand, you either do it for everybody or nobody.
Rawwr said:
So you're ok with your phone being produced in a sweatshop where there have been multiple suicides due to the terrible working conditions? You're happy that Apple claim they only manufacturer via Foxconn because of the 'unique expertise' and not just because it's dirt-cheap labour where they pump out 350 phones a minute, leaving workers - including children - blistered and arthritic from overwork?
Every single year since 2009 there have been suicides and audits revealing child labour. Apple are fully aware of the practices at Foxconn and they have the means to adjust their supply chain to resolve the issues. They don't because it's cheap and they had a shiny $5bn office to build.
Lots of manufacturers use Foxconn for production, so if you really want to take a moral stand, you should ditch any products produced through them and resolve to not purchase any others. A true protest might alleviate some of the dreadful conditions endured by a workforce the same size as the entire population of Bristol.
So yeah, Apple are pretty terrible for using Foxconn, more terrible for being complicit in their practices and they've done it again and again and again.
If you're going to take a moral stand, you either do it for everybody or nobody.
I am curious, how many people comitted suicide vs the population in general.Every single year since 2009 there have been suicides and audits revealing child labour. Apple are fully aware of the practices at Foxconn and they have the means to adjust their supply chain to resolve the issues. They don't because it's cheap and they had a shiny $5bn office to build.
Lots of manufacturers use Foxconn for production, so if you really want to take a moral stand, you should ditch any products produced through them and resolve to not purchase any others. A true protest might alleviate some of the dreadful conditions endured by a workforce the same size as the entire population of Bristol.
So yeah, Apple are pretty terrible for using Foxconn, more terrible for being complicit in their practices and they've done it again and again and again.
If you're going to take a moral stand, you either do it for everybody or nobody.
Foxconn employ 1.3 million people. That's basically them employing the whole of Birmingham PLUS cardiff.
What a load of emotive rubbish. Based on the workforce of 1m and using 2017 UK rates we would see 153 suicides at FoxC. So how many were there? I’ve read 18 attempts in 2017 and 14 actually died. It would seem working their is relatively therapeutic.
And as for kids with blistered hands. How many were found out of the million employees. I have no doubt there are isolated cases which breach Fox policy. It’s probably quite difficult managing a million people where some families push their kids into work at a young age. You make out these children are 8 or 9 years old. They were 14-18. They found 6 in one plant.
And as for kids with blistered hands. How many were found out of the million employees. I have no doubt there are isolated cases which breach Fox policy. It’s probably quite difficult managing a million people where some families push their kids into work at a young age. You make out these children are 8 or 9 years old. They were 14-18. They found 6 in one plant.
tim0409 said:
PHuzzy said:
Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.
Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?NDA said:
tim0409 said:
PHuzzy said:
Meh, even a brand new iPhone X is slower out of the box than a number of android phones.
Genuine question; what are you doing with a phone that you notice that an iPhone X is slower than an android phone (especially in every day use)?I like how the question is regarding why you'd need the extra speed though rather than the important point of being less than 50% of the price and faster.
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