Discussion
Ydnaroo said:
I've had much the same experience with Pi-hole installations. I installed Log2RAM about 18 months ago which seems to have solved this problem and I've had no card issues since. As the name suggests this saves the logs to RAM and dumps them to the card once a day (or at proper close down) saving card wear. https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-log2ram/
Good shout!alternative is to run DietPi as operating system, it includes the same functionality out of the box (and it's a lightweight Debian underneath)
ARHarh said:
Unless you need the gpio pins I can't see why you would run a pi, apart from the power consumption, but that is irrelevant if you end up running more than one pi.
so you would need many Pies to equal a modern PC.
On the other hand, there are only two architectures that matter in the modern world:
ARM for mobile and small computers and x86 for just about everything else.
Yes SPARC, HP, PowerPC, MIPS and the rest exist but they don't have large market share.
If someone could nail together 12-16 ARM CPUs in the same box in some sort of ArmPC
configuration, then IMHO that would worry Intel, AMD and Microsoft.
I'd buy one. Good to buy something with Brit tech in it, not American.
dcb said:
If someone could nail together 12-16 ARM CPUs in the same box in some sort of ArmPC
configuration, then IMHO that would worry Intel, AMD and Microsoft.
I'd buy one. Good to buy something with Brit tech in it, not American.
You just described any modern Apple computer, phone or tablet……configuration, then IMHO that would worry Intel, AMD and Microsoft.
I'd buy one. Good to buy something with Brit tech in it, not American.
troc said:
You just described any modern Apple computer, phone or tablet……
Not quite. AFAIK, Apple do a lot of proprietary kit that doesn't hardware interface wellwith other vendors kit.
The humble PC has open hardware interfaces so a lot of kit fits in.
As I said ARM PC.
Off topic, but DEC used to do a AlphaPC back in the 1990s.
That fitted in with the PC world, just had a different CPU.
Great box, first 64 bit CPU back in the 1990s (1992 ?). Decades ahead of its time.
Interestingly, Microsoft's first 64 bit OS was Vista in 2006, some 14 years later.
There is always a delay between the hardware arriving and the software being ready.
dcb said:
A Pi uses about 10 - 20 W flat out and a modern PC can run 100 - 200W flat out,
so you would need many Pies to equal a modern PC.
On the other hand, there are only two architectures that matter in the modern world:
ARM for mobile and small computers and x86 for just about everything else.
Yes SPARC, HP, PowerPC, MIPS and the rest exist but they don't have large market share.
If someone could nail together 12-16 ARM CPUs in the same box in some sort of ArmPC
configuration, then IMHO that would worry Intel, AMD and Microsoft.
I'd buy one. Good to buy something with Brit tech in it, not American.
Apple Mac Mini M1 under load runs at 39W - I run PiHole on that (in a docker container) so you would need many Pies to equal a modern PC.
On the other hand, there are only two architectures that matter in the modern world:
ARM for mobile and small computers and x86 for just about everything else.
Yes SPARC, HP, PowerPC, MIPS and the rest exist but they don't have large market share.
If someone could nail together 12-16 ARM CPUs in the same box in some sort of ArmPC
configuration, then IMHO that would worry Intel, AMD and Microsoft.
I'd buy one. Good to buy something with Brit tech in it, not American.
Dave. said:
Thought I'd ask in here rather than starting a new thread....
Anyone successfully use a pinhole and able to make l/receive WiFi calls via Vodafone?
Recently switched to Vodafone for WiFi calling, it has worked in the past but now it doesn't.
I don't recall changing anything recently so I don't see why it would stop working.
I've tried multiple dns's, enabling/disabling ipv6, etc.
There are no relevant queries being blocked by the pi, but I do recall seeing something along the lines of "3gnetworking" in my logs previously, but don't get them now.
It was a phone issue. I reset my network settings on the phone and it's been working fine for the past week.... Anyone successfully use a pinhole and able to make l/receive WiFi calls via Vodafone?
Recently switched to Vodafone for WiFi calling, it has worked in the past but now it doesn't.
I don't recall changing anything recently so I don't see why it would stop working.
I've tried multiple dns's, enabling/disabling ipv6, etc.
There are no relevant queries being blocked by the pi, but I do recall seeing something along the lines of "3gnetworking" in my logs previously, but don't get them now.
I had a pair of Pi's running Pi-hole for many years, most recently a Zero 2 W and a Zero W. They were fairly reliable: I think I lost one SD card in eight years.
But recently I switched to NextDNS, which has the major advantage of blocking ads on my devices when they're not on home wifi.
But recently I switched to NextDNS, which has the major advantage of blocking ads on my devices when they're not on home wifi.
webstercivet said:
I had a pair of Pi's running Pi-hole for many years, most recently a Zero 2 W and a Zero W. They were fairly reliable: I think I lost one SD card in eight years.
But recently I switched to NextDNS, which has the major advantage of blocking ads on my devices when they're not on home wifi.
Good idea that. I use WireGuard running on a Pi3B to act as a VPN to my home network when I'm away and it routes my mobile traffic through PiHole that way. I've used it globally for a number of years now.But recently I switched to NextDNS, which has the major advantage of blocking ads on my devices when they're not on home wifi.
WrekinCrew said:
I just ordered a USB power meter so I'll report back what my Pihole Pi's are actually using. I suspect it will be pretty close to the idle consumption (~2w for the 3B and ~0.7w for the Zero2).
Now my 5 has arrived I'll swap the 3B for a 4 if I can get Motioneye working on it.
Well that was a good guess. My £4 Aliexpress USB power meter just arrived.Now my 5 has arrived I'll swap the 3B for a 4 if I can get Motioneye working on it.
Pi Zero 2 W running PiHole and nothing else does indeed use 0.7W
and the Pi 3B running PiHole, Motioneye and the Module 2 Pi CSI camera uses 2W
WrekinCrew said:
Well that was a good guess. My £4 Aliexpress USB power meter just arrived.
Pi Zero 2 W running PiHole and nothing else does indeed use 0.7W
and the Pi 3B running PiHole, Motioneye and the Module 2 Pi CSI camera uses 2W
Pi Zero 2 W running PiHole and nothing else does indeed use 0.7W
and the Pi 3B running PiHole, Motioneye and the Module 2 Pi CSI camera uses 2W
Church of Noise said:
However, if you're only running pi-hole a rpi can run at near idle, using 1 to 2W. Choose the right 'desktop' or nuc, and you can reach the same idle consumption and multiples of computing power when required (eg Intel nuc 11 essential, Small Form Factor systems...)
Exactly 
I've been running pi's, Intel NUC's and SFF pc's for a while for pi-hole or home assistant and have used a shelly plug S to monitor their usages, glad to see you find the same numbers!
Fwiw, lowest I've found on a non-pi system is 1.5W on an Intel NUC 11 essential
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