Gary McKinnon loses appeal

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julian64

14,317 posts

256 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
This apparent “1-way” extradition treaty – what’s in it for us (UK)?
contempt?
Should there be anything in it for it to be the right thing to do?

As for Asbergers, I doubt it.

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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julian64 said:
As for Asbergers, I doubt it.
Why?

TEKNOPUG

19,048 posts

207 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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julian64 said:
odyssey2200 said:
TEKNOPUG said:
This apparent “1-way” extradition treaty – what’s in it for us (UK)?
contempt?
Should there be anything in it for it to be the right thing to do?

As for Asbergers, I doubt it.
Why would we need to legal treaty then? If it’s “the right thing to do” then surely we would just hand him over, after all, it is “the right thing to do….”

TEKNOPUG

19,048 posts

207 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Marf said:
julian64 said:
As for Asbergers, I doubt it.
Why?
+1

br d

8,410 posts

228 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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The law exists, he broke it. Asperges my a*se, anyone remember Ernest Saunders?

'He was only looking for info on UFO's, and now his mums really upset'. My heart bleeds.

Let's spin it around, let's have a yank (you know, like Bush is, god you hate him right?) breaking into our systems, and then let's see everyone jumping up and down and demanding they aren't bought here to face justice in line with the law.

He's an idiot who thought he was being clever, now he can face the consequences, the poor lamb.

dcb

5,846 posts

267 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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Marf said:
By demonstrating that some of the most security concious organisations in the
world had levels of security you'd expect on a PC owned by a forgetful OAP,
he caused them massive embarrassment.
+1

Let's remember than no one got killed and no one got injured as
a result of his actions.

The UK Gov looks especially supine in this affair.


esselte

14,626 posts

269 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
It would appear that the US Defence Computer security system was designed by the same guy who designed the UK immigration system.



Edited by odyssey2200 on Friday 9th October 16:50
I can't help but think that these systems may have been set up as "honeytraps" to snare people intent on doing what Mckinnon did...(I suppos eit's tinfoil hat time).

hidetheelephants

25,177 posts

195 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
It would appear that the US Defence Computer security system was designed by the same guy who designed the UK immigration system.

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Probably with technical support from the cretins that brought us the CRB and NATS systems(and pretty much any other government computer/software project) and have thus far failed to deliver on Computers for Health, or whatever it's called this week, but has still been paid several hundred million pounds; stand up Crapita, EDS, BT, and several other serial incompetents.

TurricanII

1,516 posts

200 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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He was able to hold down a system admin job so I bet he knows the difference between right and wrong when it came to poking the US govt. computers. He took the risk and he got nailed. If a US hacker got into my systems the effects on my business would be massive. I would want my govt to get onto the US and 'throw the book at em' - preferably here where the law was broken but otherwise in the US. That said has anyone managed to report a hacking attempt in the UK and got a reasonable response? Unless it's govt. or child p*rn they don't want to know.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

245 months

Friday 9th October 2009
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TurricanII said:
He was able to hold down a system admin job so I bet he knows the difference between right and wrong when it came to poking the US govt. computers. He took the risk and he got nailed. If a US hacker got into my systems the effects on my business would be massive. I would want my govt to get onto the US and 'throw the book at em' - preferably here where the law was broken but otherwise in the US. That said has anyone managed to report a hacking attempt in the UK and got a reasonable response? Unless it's govt. or child p*rn they don't want to know.
+1

Agreed, he knew full well what he was doing and just because they had some insecure systems doesn't make it ok.

I read a article a while back that stated they caught him because he registered the software he installed on their systems with his email address, doh!

He's committed a very serious crime and I personally don't see a problem with them throwing the book at him. Hacking into the military isn't on and knew it was wrong but did it anyway on account of some alien fantasy he had going on.