Google Sandbox - help

[magic torch]

Got a friend who's got a payroll services web-site www.payroll-services-uk.com and it's been in and out of Google's sandbox since April.

There's quite a few sites linking to it, and none of them are shown on Google. Dmoz won't add it, as they same it's the same as an accountants web-site despite different ownership, phone number, staff...

Any ideas?

Thanks

[dilbert]

Somehow you need to get all of your competitors to link you!

Edited by dilbert on Thursday 23 November 12:36

[aranell]

I thought it hadn't been officially proven the sandbox existed
The links have to come in from other trusted sites as these hold more weight from the big G - can you do a link exchange with other people who are already listed?

Has the site got a sitemap? Might make it easier for the spiders? If not, setup a sitemap (www.sitemaps.org/ ) and ping the googlebot. Have you tried getting into Yahoo's directory listings - I've heard that it can help, but not sure whether this works or not?

Just out of curiosity, was the site parked with sedo before? (I only ask because some of the 'nonexistent' URLs point to parking pages.....). I've seen some pages which were previously parked (but not all?) having problems getting listed in the SERPS before.

[magic torch]

Ah, forgot to mention the sandbox doesn't exist...

The site has got links from other trusted sites, and it's in other search engines. Weird thing is Google seems to show them for a few days, then they're gone again. It's got a Google Sitemap, and I can see all the pages have been indexed.

I see you can't submit a site to Yahoo's UK directory, and it costs $299 per annum to submit to Yahoo, is this worth doing?

Site has never been parked, went straight to page.

What I don't understand is Google's intermittent display of the links to the site.


Thanks for your comments.

[sa_20v]

magic torch said:

I see you can't submit a site to Yahoo's UK directory, and it costs $299 per annum to submit to Yahoo, is this worth doing?

You can submit a site for free to Yahoo! Directory, I know this because my site has recently been added. Of course, depending on your sites quality, it may or may not be included, and it can take a while to appear depending on when they have chance to evaluate it.

[magic torch]

sa_20v said:

magic torch said:

I see you can't submit a site to Yahoo's UK directory, and it costs $299 per annum to submit to Yahoo, is this worth doing?

You can submit a site for free to Yahoo! Directory, I know this because my site has recently been added. Of course, depending on your sites quality, it may or may not be included, and it can take a while to appear depending on when they have chance to evaluate it.

Just seen if you click through you can, didn't think it was going to the directory bit. I'll do that now.

[dilbert]

He's right... Google doesnt know about it.....

Go to google and type link:www.payroll-services-uk.com...

No matches. It's not got around to evaluating your page rank yet, I guess.

That said I did check the site earlier, and a minute ago, earlier it was fine , but I just got an 500 internal server error. Has the site been live long?

Put it down to these people "kundenserver.de".

[aranell]

dilbert said:

He's right... Google doesnt know about it.....

G does sort of know about it. If you google some of the text, because it's unique it will return the site as the only result, so the ethereal-sandbox theory does fit because in specific instances, you can get the site to show in the SERPS.

dilbert said:

Put it down to these people "kundenserver.de".

Maybe the collective force of PH took the server down?

[magic torch]

Seems ok now, G just seems hit and miss about it's inclusion.

Aranell, thanks for your mail