Mercedes E350CDI Estate

Mercedes E350CDI Estate

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cayman-black

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12,712 posts

218 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I,m wondering if it is worth paying a bit more and a few thousand miles more for a Merc approved car?

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Merc Approved will be newer so you are into the Blue Tec cars with the adblue issues.

Also Mercland recently have been advertising many cars with a less than comprehensive service history, some being considerably outside Mercedes recommendations. They are still offering their extended warranty but just a point to be aware of.

I suspect they are struggling to find their usual stock like many other dealers.

cayman-black

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218 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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Lol ,just spoke to a Dealer in Surry about what looked like a lovely car but just one recorded service in 35k miles.

Are the Blutec cars really that bad? Thx Monkey.

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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cayman-black said:
Lol ,just spoke to a Dealer in Surry about what looked like a lovely car but just one recorded service in 35k miles.

Are the Blutech cars really that bad?
The issue is with the NOx sensors and the adblue tank, pump and wiring routing. The sensors will fail and are about £600 or so each of which there will be two, and the tank/pump can be a £2000 bill.

Mercedes solution to the sensor issue is to drill small holes in the exhaust to drain condensation to stop the sensors from failing through sitting in it. What an ingenious technical solution that is smile

The wiring issue is due to chafing as a result of bad routing requiring replacement of part of the wiring loom, not a cheap fix.

You might get goodwill from Mercedes but it is highly likely something within the system will fail. Apparently the back orders for parts are quite long due to a combination of the high level of failures, Covid, Brexit, etc, so off road time can also be a big problem.

It is worth doing a bit of googling to get an idea as to the extent of the issues, and the dedicated Merc forums will tell you more.

The NOx sensor issue also affects their petrol cars as well.

When the sensors fail you will get the dreaded message that will tell you your car will refuse to start in so many miles and topping up with adblue will not cure the problem.

There has been or still is a class action in the States surrounding the whole Mercedes emissions debacle with cars being recalled both there and the UK to update software followed by poor running issues and sensor issues in many cases.

This is a genuine well known issue so don't go in with your fingers crossed and eyes closed smile

Scrump

22,329 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I bought a merc approved one. At the time price was hardly any different to buying from anywhere else.
Had an issue with the rear air suspension in the first year of ownership and it was fixed without any hassle.

Mine is a Bluetec version with adblue. I have not had any maintenance costs in four years beyond routine servicing and a new battery. It hardly uses any Adblue (but I have not had the software recall done)
The nox sensor issue does come up a lot on the forums. I can’t see the point in worrying too much about it, if the problem occurs it is fixable by an indie and what other car would I buy which is without any issues?

cayman-black

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218 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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So the main dealer warranty might be worth it.

Scrump

22,329 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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On the basis of my good experience with the Mercedes used warranty my parents paid a slight premium to buy their used Smart car from a Smart/Mercedes dealer.
Within the first year they suffered an issue one morning when the car wouldn’t start.
Mercedes collected the car the same day, fitted a new sensor and had it ready for collection by the next morning.

My two experiences of the Mercedes used warranty have been very very good.

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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I am not saying that every car will suffer but rest assured many will, so do you feel lucky ??

If you get a warranty make sure it is backed by Mercedes and not a third party warranty.

cayman-black

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Sunday 27th June 2021
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Thanks for your input Scrump!

Thanks, Monkey, if bought from Merc the warranty is ok i presume.

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Sunday 27th June 2021
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cayman-black said:
Thanks for your input Scrump!

Thanks, Monkey, if bought from Merc the warranty is ok i presume.
It should be and I know Mercedes have replaced parts either FOC or with a significant contribution if the car has a proper Mercedes service history even outside of warranty.

I am not trying to scare you off but it is better to be aware before buying than finding out afterwards.

B3MX5

543 posts

207 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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I’ve owned my 2011 E350cdi Estate ED125 for 6 years, taking the mileage from 117,000 to 181,000. It’s been serviced according to correct service guidelines at Mercedes specialist Nick Webster in Poynton.

It drives utterly faultlessly still, there’s not a squeak or rattle in it. It was remapped by DMS around 5 years ago, and whilst the torque increase was really impressive, the gearbox remap was the single biggest improvement.

Faults have been:

- rear suspension dropped. I thought it was an airbag failure, however it was down to a trapped wire which has been routed poorly, it’s often diagnosed as a faulty airbag by dealers. Was a £60 fix
- both rear door handles have failed in the cold. Apparently it’s also a known design failure. Main dealers wanted £1400 per door, their technique was to cut through the door panel (!) and fix it that way. There’s a very fiddly access hole Nick Webster’s guys use and each handle was replaced for around £200 all-in each side.
- leaking turbo seal as mentioned above. Part costs minimal but labour was around a days work I think.
- horn failed

I should get round to replacing it, but it’s been brilliant. Still is. It’s got none of then inevitable wear and tear my previous 5 BMW’s have had, the last an Alpina B3 touring.


Dodgy picture taken last night on way back from the cinema! I’m still looks good (to me) for what it’s worth, apologies about the clumsy editing/masking!

cayman-black

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Monday 28th June 2021
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That does look good B3MX5, thanks for your thoughts. Looks as if i have just got one, coming from Mercedes with a years Mercedes warranty.
2015 car.

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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Well done, we will of course need photos.

AlonzoHarris

121 posts

126 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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B3MX5 said:
I’ve owned my 2011 E350cdi Estate ED125 for 6 years, taking the mileage from 117,000 to 181,000. It’s been serviced according to correct service guidelines at Mercedes specialist Nick Webster in Poynton.

It drives utterly faultlessly still, there’s not a squeak or rattle in it. It was remapped by DMS around 5 years ago, and whilst the torque increase was really impressive, the gearbox remap was the single biggest improvement.

Faults have been:

- rear suspension dropped. I thought it was an airbag failure, however it was down to a trapped wire which has been routed poorly, it’s often diagnosed as a faulty airbag by dealers. Was a £60 fix
- both rear door handles have failed in the cold. Apparently it’s also a known design failure. Main dealers wanted £1400 per door, their technique was to cut through the door panel (!) and fix it that way. There’s a very fiddly access hole Nick Webster’s guys use and each handle was replaced for around £200 all-in each side.
- leaking turbo seal as mentioned above. Part costs minimal but labour was around a days work I think.
- horn failed

I should get round to replacing it, but it’s been brilliant. Still is. It’s got none of then inevitable wear and tear my previous 5 BMW’s have had, the last an Alpina B3 touring.


Dodgy picture taken last night on way back from the cinema! I’m still looks good (to me) for what it’s worth, apologies about the clumsy editing/masking!
Your car looks lovely. Like a proper Merc.

B3MX5

543 posts

207 months

Monday 28th June 2021
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cayman-black said:
Looks as if i have just got one, coming from Mercedes with a years Mercedes warranty.
2015 car.
Congratulations! Definitely share pictures of it

cayman-black

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12,712 posts

218 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
Well done, we will of course need photos.
So far very pleased with it.



Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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Looks good, those wheels are so much better than the latest offerings.

What mpg are you getting?

cayman-black

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Saturday 31st July 2021
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Hi Monkey i have just driven it across Europe and it was showing late 30,s and into the 40,s Yes the wheels look much better they are 19ins.

Monkeylegend

26,605 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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That is pretty impressive for a car with that performance.

The 350CDi was the car that got away from me, I almost bought a 2012 car when I retired but the Mercedes dealer where I had bought my three previous E220's from were not overly generous on the potential deal so I kept my then current 220 and bought an SL350 instead.

I finally defected to the other side this year smile

cayman-black

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218 months

Saturday 31st July 2021
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Do you mean BMW ?