Anyone else pre ordered the new AMG GTR?
Discussion
Stuart0620 said:
threesixty said:
Sounds like every man and his dog is expecting to get one of these clubsports.
My dealer already admits that he's taken orders for 4 but expects to get 1 or 2.
I've been looking at the Renntech stuff but I think it looks a bit naff, especially the skirts and rear spoiler add-on. They are talking about rad guards though which would be great as mine are absolutely f
ked.
I had an order confirmation from my dealer in writing but perhaps they send this to everyone regardless.My dealer already admits that he's taken orders for 4 but expects to get 1 or 2.
I've been looking at the Renntech stuff but I think it looks a bit naff, especially the skirts and rear spoiler add-on. They are talking about rad guards though which would be great as mine are absolutely f
ked.I understood that there was an EU law that came in last year that prevents dealers from taking a deposit unless they can physically supply a car.
When you mention rad guards is this for either side ?
I see that Shmee had one of his rads punctured by a stone on the way down to Monaco and was leaking and couldn't be driven in case the gearbox overheated.
So are Renntech making some rad guards ? If not I might ask an engineering company to knock some up as it cannot be rocket science to fabricate some form of mesh grills that go in front of the rads, albeit it might be the fixing of them that is more difficult.
Surprised really that Merc sell an expensive car with such an apparent flaw and haven't come up with a fix for this.
Call me cynical but I firmly believe that these car manufacturers, Mercedes with the GTR and GTC and Porsche with their GTS and GT3 to name just a couple leave these radiators vulnerable to generate another income supplying new radiators to the many unfortunate owners who have picked up a stone at high speed. The lack of a guard is really a design fault and they are unfit for purpose! All of these top manufacturers have the ability to design and fit a guard as standard that would look unobtrusive and good for peanuts. Motor cycles including race bikes have had radiator guards fitted for years. It’s ridiculous that we spend well upwards of 100k on cars and have to look at installing an aftermarket item.
Gone a bit quiet on this forum at the moment and I’m not too surprised, wish I had listened to myself rather than be influenced in any way by this forum. Remember certain members I believe ‘threesixty’ who felt that the GTR would always hold more value than the ED50’s come May. Well it would appear that I was correct, far less ED50’s on the trader, none of which are below retail whereas there are several GTR’s at under 10k below list and they are going nowhere! I have just bailed out of my second GTR with well under 1k on the clock for £136k and that was following a day phoning everyone in the country, a woefull Experience! A colleague of mine has been offered a cancelled order fairly standard premium pack car with 11% discount from one of the largest MB dealers. MB dealers have shafted everyone with these cars as usual and they don’t give a t.... ! They will not buy these back for any price although a year ago were saying that this halo car, LOL will be so limited and sought after. MB have now released details of the next gimmick, the GTR RS to entice the gullible amongst us to boost their sales a bit more before the much limited barely available black Series.
Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
M Barrett said:
Gone a bit quiet on this forum at the moment and I’m not too surprised, wish I had listened to myself rather than be influenced in any way by this forum. Remember certain members I believe ‘threesixty’ who felt that the GTR would always hold more value than the ED50’s come May. Well it would appear that I was correct, far less ED50’s on the trader, none of which are below retail whereas there are several GTR’s at under 10k below list and they are going nowhere! I have just bailed out of my second GTR with well under 1k on the clock for £136k and that was following a day phoning everyone in the country, a woefull Experience! A colleague of mine has been offered a cancelled order fairly standard premium pack car with 11% discount from one of the largest MB dealers. MB dealers have shafted everyone with these cars as usual and they don’t give a t.... ! They will not buy these back for any price although a year ago were saying that this halo car, LOL will be so limited and sought after. MB have now released details of the next gimmick, the GTR RS to entice the gullible amongst us to boost their sales a bit more before the much limited barely available black Series.
Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
Entice the gullible? Maybe some of us just want a good, solid driving track car and aren't worried about whether or not it's gonna make or hold value. I know I bought the thing to drive it. I've done 10k miles in my E63S in 5 months. Life is short. Buy the car you desire if you can afford it. Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
I completely agree, nobody likes losing thousand though and particularly when it’s down to the manufacturers and greedy deceitful lying MB dealers who are great at the point of sale but don’t give a t... from then on. I loved both of my GTR’s and have said that I think that they are one of the best cars available!
M Barrett said:
Gone a bit quiet on this forum at the moment and I’m not too surprised, wish I had listened to myself rather than be influenced in any way by this forum. Remember certain members I believe ‘threesixty’ who felt that the GTR would always hold more value than the ED50’s come May. Well it would appear that I was correct, far less ED50’s on the trader, none of which are below retail whereas there are several GTR’s at under 10k below list and they are going nowhere! I have just bailed out of my second GTR with well under 1k on the clock for £136k and that was following a day phoning everyone in the country, a woefull Experience! A colleague of mine has been offered a cancelled order fairly standard premium pack car with 11% discount from one of the largest MB dealers. MB dealers have shafted everyone with these cars as usual and they don’t give a t.... ! They will not buy these back for any price although a year ago were saying that this halo car, LOL will be so limited and sought after. MB have now released details of the next gimmick, the GTR RS to entice the gullible amongst us to boost their sales a bit more before the much limited barely available black Series.
Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
Mercedes always said this model was not a limited edition. I’m enjoying mine & she will be 9 months old next month. I’ve had 4-5 traders bid me £140,000 on it this week. Not selling it quite yet.Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
I could have flipped it but instead bought it to drive. Agreed it’s an awesome car!
My order is in & deposit paid for the GTR club sport which I’m told is limited to just 40 cars in the UK & all slots are already pre sold.
I’ve never gone near a Mclaren but have enjoyed Ferrari’s, Lamborghinis, Porsches & this beauty. Yes prices have just started to creep under list price but a Mclaren would have lost me over double.
If you have been offered £140k for your GTR considering what you are marketing it for on the trader and how long you have had it on there, I would grab it immediately. I can assure you that £140k is an unbelievable bid particularly from a trader. I received bids around £133k and £134k from all of the so called 'Supercar Dealers' LOL who incidentally all seem to have cash flow issues at the moment judging by their reluctance to buy and preference to SOR. Yes of course McLaren's and Astons etc fall through the floor unless they are old or limited but that's always been the case. Not many Porsche's fall out of bed, even the gen 2 911T which is not limited and very basic in every way is making over list. I agree MB never said that the GTR was going to be limited but they made it very clear that there was likely to be another two years possibly three of production at 70 cars a year to the UK, 140 or 210 GTR's over two or possibly three years which to me is fairly limited. They omitted conveniently to mention that there would be an updated model little over a year after launch!
M Barrett said:
If you have been offered £140k for your GTR considering what you are marketing it for on the trader and how long you have had it on there, I would grab it immediately. I can assure you that £140k is an unbelievable bid particularly from a trader. I received bids around £133k and £134k from all of the so called 'Supercar Dealers' LOL who incidentally all seem to have cash flow issues at the moment judging by their reluctance to buy and preference to SOR. Yes of course McLaren's and Astons etc fall through the floor unless they are old or limited but that's always been the case. Not many Porsche's fall out of bed, even the gen 2 911T which is not limited and very basic in every way is making over list. I agree MB never said that the GTR was going to be limited but they made it very clear that there was likely to be another two years possibly three of production at 70 cars a year to the UK, 140 or 210 GTR's over two or possibly three years which to me is fairly limited. They omitted conveniently to mention that there would be an updated model little over a year after launch!
I have a couple of private leads on it too so weighing up my options.What colour was yours? Some seem to be more popular than others. The green has taken a big hit as there are so many now,
I don’t need to sell it hence why I put it on in March at a much higher price then changed my mind, withdrawing it from sale as this car really does give a lot of smiles per mile.
Porsche dealers are the same (as are all Supercar dealers) They won’t buy your car unless it’s a very good margin for them but will SOR it. My gen 2 991 GT3 is also an awesome car but I think the GTR had a little more drama.
My first one was Magno Selenite and the second one standard white. I agree plenty of drama and its not until you get them on the track that you understand just how good they are. A GT3 and GTR, very nice it must be difficult to know what one to use!
Anyway good luck with the sale, I think there will be more buyers about now the weather is picking up.
Anyway good luck with the sale, I think there will be more buyers about now the weather is picking up.
My GTR has a July delivery and am really looking forward to it.
I have bought it to keep it long term, i.e. 5 to 10 years and it is to replace my Audi R8 that is 11 years old. I am buying it to enjoy it and have Fun with a capital "F" !
I would never buy any car if I was concerned about depreciation and if the GTR depreciates so be it.
I have bought it to keep it long term, i.e. 5 to 10 years and it is to replace my Audi R8 that is 11 years old. I am buying it to enjoy it and have Fun with a capital "F" !
I would never buy any car if I was concerned about depreciation and if the GTR depreciates so be it.
M Barrett said:
Call me cynical but I firmly believe that these car manufacturers, Mercedes with the GTR and GTC and Porsche with their GTS and GT3 to name just a couple leave these radiators vulnerable to generate another income supplying new radiators to the many unfortunate owners who have picked up a stone at high speed. The lack of a guard is really a design fault and they are unfit for purpose! All of these top manufacturers have the ability to design and fit a guard as standard that would look unobtrusive and good for peanuts. Motor cycles including race bikes have had radiator guards fitted for years. It’s ridiculous that we spend well upwards of 100k on cars and have to look at installing an aftermarket item.
Mercedes R&D have sorted a solution for the radiators. All new GTR's will now be fitted with radiator guards just in front of the rads to prevent damage occurring. Whilst new GTR's will have the guards fitted, they are not available as a retro fit as yet and you cannot buy the rad guards as a spare part as yet. MB are currently working on a retro fit solution with advices to follow re this in due course.M Barrett said:
Gone a bit quiet on this forum at the moment and I’m not too surprised, wish I had listened to myself rather than be influenced in any way by this forum. Remember certain members I believe ‘threesixty’ who felt that the GTR would always hold more value than the ED50’s come May. Well it would appear that I was correct, far less ED50’s on the trader, none of which are below retail whereas there are several GTR’s at under 10k below list and they are going nowhere! I have just bailed out of my second GTR with well under 1k on the clock for £136k and that was following a day phoning everyone in the country, a woefull Experience! A colleague of mine has been offered a cancelled order fairly standard premium pack car with 11% discount from one of the largest MB dealers. MB dealers have shafted everyone with these cars as usual and they don’t give a t.... ! They will not buy these back for any price although a year ago were saying that this halo car, LOL will be so limited and sought after. MB have now released details of the next gimmick, the GTR RS to entice the gullible amongst us to boost their sales a bit more before the much limited barely available black Series.
Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
mBarret Still an unbelievable car, one of the best particularly if money no object but in my opinion tread carefully if not, in a years time I would bet the current GTR with very low miles will be changing hands at around £120k!
You obviously can not afford to drive one of these cars as you have said you bailed out of your 2nd GTR after 1000kms. Even after you have said you love it and it’s one of the best !!
So maybe buy a car in your budget instead of
Being a pretender.
I think you should only buy new cars to keep and drive them, if you speculate and lose then I am so be it. You did well out of the 1st one luckily as it’s a year old now the shine has gone , you should know this if you are a decent spectator. Just watch any YouTube rob this car.
New cars are not an investment as the manufacturers set a market price. The only merc anyone has ever made $$ on on a flip is a black series and lucky of you get one. Gtr has been a great release and the clubsport will not be as an enjoyable road car to drive.
So go put your name down for a 911 and pretent you are the man with that brand.
Bit touchy aren’t we, you need to calm down son, I didn’t say I bought cars to make money, far from it but was simply saying nobody likes to lose loads. Just because I said that I thought the GTR was fantastic doesn’t mean that I don’t want a change. I am not buying a Porshe, I have had many 911’s and that wasn’t my point. You sound like the sort who has financed himself up to the hilt and has no option but to keep your car and get very defensive when you see residuals dropping. Don’t worry just enjoy!
Stuart1961 said:
Mercedes R&D have sorted a solution for the radiators. All new GTR's will now be fitted with radiator guards just in front of the rads to prevent damage occurring. Whilst new GTR's will have the guards fitted, they are not available as a retro fit as yet and you cannot buy the rad guards as a spare part as yet. MB are currently working on a retro fit solution with advices to follow re this in due course.
Thanks for the intell on this. I had my dealer fit mesh screens on mine this week. I’ll upgrade when the retrofit becomes available. My car was in for a campaign replacement for the rollbar. Anyone else get this?
M Barrett said:
Bit touchy aren’t we, you need to calm down son, I didn’t say I bought cars to make money, far from it but was simply saying nobody likes to lose loads. Just because I said that I thought the GTR was fantastic doesn’t mean that I don’t want a change. I am not buying a Porshe, I have had many 911’s and that wasn’t my point. You sound like the sort who has financed himself up to the hilt and has no option but to keep your car and get very defensive when you see residuals dropping. Don’t worry just enjoy!
BarretI only buy cars for cash. However why whinge and sell the car at a 1000mls and get upset if you lose money. If such a great car why not keep it ?
I think you dumped and ran as you could not afford the depreciation and expected a free ride like your last one. 10k loss who cares on a car which in my opinion the best all round sports cars on the road today.
Why sell ? Why then
Very classy and professional on a £150k car! Looks like an addition to a 1970’s Firebird or the like! We seem to have become really tolerant of late to the poor service and general customer service from these so called premium brand manufacturers.
Am I the only person on on this forum who expects a reasonable finished serviceable product for £150 k plus?
Am I the only person on on this forum who expects a reasonable finished serviceable product for £150 k plus?
M Barrett said:
Karter 34, only buys cars for cash!! Yes really. Seems like the finance comment touched a big nerve! Dream on Karter, doubt you even own a GTR!
My car is due September. I was taught you should never finance a depreciating asset as you should only buy cars for cash as they are a luxury in your life .Though that’s just me , a lot of people seem to need to live beyond their means.
Edited by Karter34 on Sunday 20th May 07:05
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