Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

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ecsrobin

17,392 posts

167 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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SweetBabyCheeses said:
I have no shame in it being a 500 - it's not as if it's a secret - it's just not right. If the car was still called a 500 Abarth it would be fine - other than the material being a bit shonky!
The biggest issue is why isn’t it called an Abarth 1368……

123DWA

1,308 posts

105 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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SweetBabyCheeses said:
Is the dash going to have a gopping great "500" on a sad piece of plastic like mine? If not, go for it biggrin
A friend of mine got around this by buying a normal fiat 500 dash panel off ebay and having a bodyshop smooth over the 500 and paint it body coloured. I think the whole thing was £125 including buying the panel itself.

pidsy

8,066 posts

159 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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123DWA said:
SweetBabyCheeses said:
Is the dash going to have a gopping great "500" on a sad piece of plastic like mine? If not, go for it biggrin
A friend of mine got around this by buying a normal fiat 500 dash panel off ebay and having a bodyshop smooth over the 500 and paint it body coloured. I think the whole thing was £125 including buying the panel itself.
I’ve seen them filled and then wrapped.

As a side, only the 695 Yamaha came with a carbon dash. It was never part of the PP.
you can buy them separately but it’s around £600.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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To be honest what's wrong with 500?

It's a 500!

ecsrobin

17,392 posts

167 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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pidsy said:
As a side, only the 695 Yamaha came with a carbon dash. It was never part of the PP.
you can buy them separately but it’s around £600.
They were originally meant to come as part of the PP on the release of the S4 along with the larger screen but delays in manufacturing stopped that and never got added in.

SweetBabyCheeses

62 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
To be honest what's wrong with 500?

It's a 500!
The car isn't a 500 though. It's not called one. It's not badged one anywhere (aside from where the left it etched into the hatch handle as well). So it's just at odds with everything else. If they still called it a 500 Abarth I wouldn't mind, but it's just an inconsistency. But I find the 500 itself much less offensive than the quality of plastic underneath it. I find neither of them terribly offensive really, just mildly irritating.

SweetBabyCheeses

62 posts

131 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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123DWA said:
A friend of mine got around this by buying a normal fiat 500 dash panel off ebay and having a bodyshop smooth over the 500 and paint it body coloured. I think the whole thing was £125 including buying the panel itself.
It's a lease so it's got to remain as is. I'll get over it. In fact I already have done. But it's still rubbish smile

jamies30

5,911 posts

231 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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SweetBabyCheeses said:
The car isn't a 500 though. It's not called one.
It really is though - ‘Abarth’ in this case is really just a Fiat 500 trim level. I guess they stopped calling it a ‘500 Abarth’ for marketing reasons, but it’s a Fiat 500. None the worse for that, though, but it’s really just a fast spec of a cheap little city car.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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I don't care.

As long as its in warranty I'm happy

ecsrobin

17,392 posts

167 months

Thursday 4th November 2021
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SweetBabyCheeses said:
The car isn't a 500 though. It's not called one. It's not badged one anywhere (aside from where the left it etched into the hatch handle as well). So it's just at odds with everything else. If they still called it a 500 Abarth I wouldn't mind, but it's just an inconsistency. But I find the 500 itself much less offensive than the quality of plastic underneath it. I find neither of them terribly offensive really, just mildly irritating.
I imagine you also think it’s an Italian car when in fact it’s polish. It is a Fiat 500 just a sporty version.

SweetBabyCheeses

62 posts

131 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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jamies30 said:
It really is though - ‘Abarth’ in this case is really just a Fiat 500 trim level. I guess they stopped calling it a ‘500 Abarth’ for marketing reasons, but it’s a Fiat 500. None the worse for that, though, but it’s really just a fast spec of a cheap little city car.
Thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious as if I had never seen a car before. I am more than aware it is essentially a 500 and has the body and architecture which come off the same production line and are of little of no difference, it's just a fact that the car itself is not called a 500 in any literature and is not recognised in name as a 500 any more so not to change that panel just stinks of cheapness.

If Fiat were that bothered about changing the identity in the first place, stick with it and be consistent or don't bother.

I'm struggling to see who would not recognise it as a 500. Or, for that matter, who would feel the need to point it out on a forum such as this when it is a subject oft mentioned by people (who might also just possibly suspect it might essentially be a Fiat 500) and pointed out by hacks when they take one out.

You're not going to ruin Christmas now by telling me Santa Claus isn't real are you?

SweetBabyCheeses

62 posts

131 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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ecsrobin said:
I imagine you also think it’s an Italian car when in fact it’s polish. It is a Fiat 500 just a sporty version.
No, on the contrary. But to be honest, I would consider a Polish car probably more likely to be better built than an Italian one anyway. Although under Fiat stewardship it's anyone's guess.

I should add, I have never been a fan of the Abarth. It's not its link with the 500 that puts me off, more the origins linked to the much older Panda via the now 18 year old Mini platform. I am purely leasing it because it is very cheap for what it is, I am collecting a large sack of cash for selling the fundamentally much better car I currently have and my mileage is now 10% of what it used to be so broadly speaking my car is irrelevant to me so I will entertain a degree of mediocrity if indeed that is what it ends up being. But I may also like it.

But keep it up. I like the lower rungs of the spectrum attempting a degree of condescension. It's bordering entertaining.

ecsrobin

17,392 posts

167 months

Friday 5th November 2021
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SweetBabyCheeses said:
No, on the contrary. But to be honest, I would consider a Polish car probably more likely to be better built than an Italian one anyway. Although under Fiat stewardship it's anyone's guess.

I should add, I have never been a fan of the Abarth. It's not its link with the 500 that puts me off, more the origins linked to the much older Panda via the now 18 year old Mini platform. I am purely leasing it because it is very cheap for what it is, I am collecting a large sack of cash for selling the fundamentally much better car I currently have and my mileage is now 10% of what it used to be so broadly speaking my car is irrelevant to me so I will entertain a degree of mediocrity if indeed that is what it ends up being. But I may also like it.

But keep it up. I like the lower rungs of the spectrum attempting a degree of condescension. It's bordering entertaining.
rofl

celestequattro

82 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
Anyone run a roof rack on theirs


Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Where did you get yours from and cost? I'd run it with a Thule bike rack

celestequattro

82 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Thule roof bars, foot pack and bike carrier. Just cannot open the boot very far.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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I checked Thule and they don't list one (anymore?) for a 500 or Abarth?!

Do you know your product numbers so I could cobble one up

ecsrobin

17,392 posts

167 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I checked Thule and they don't list one (anymore?) for a 500 or Abarth?!

Do you know your product numbers so I could cobble one up
Thule 754 is the foot kit for a 500.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Complete-Unused-Fiat-50...

celestequattro

82 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Try this. You end up with standard bike carrier, I have standard aero bar plus foot pack. Front foot pack is a bent plate with a pin fitting a hole effectively underneath roof. Rear foot just rests on top of roof. I have a feeling there may be another element (= is but part of 754?) which cantilevers it all down. I’ll keep hunting my emails to see what I can find.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th November 2021
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Ah that's good to see the codes as I already have the 754 & bars covered in cobwebs from. Prev car. Cheers.