Fiat 500 Twinair fuel economy
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Bought my TA back in November and have since covered just under 2,500 miles. The car seems to be averaging 40-45mpg, and that's a mixture of A/B road and motorway 80mph cruises. Great little car, planning to keep it for a while. The mpg wasn't a big factor in deciding to buy the car (it was more the 0 congestion charge, road tax and low insurance and income tax liability). However, must admit I did think mpg would be much better given Fiat's claims so it is a bit disappointing in that regard.
Rrroro said:
Bought my TA back in November and have since covered just under 2,500 miles. The car seems to be averaging 40-45mpg, and that's a mixture of A/B road and motorway 80mph cruises. Great little car, planning to keep it for a while. The mpg wasn't a big factor in deciding to buy the car (it was more the 0 congestion charge, road tax and low insurance and income tax liability). However, must admit I did think mpg would be much better given Fiat's claims so it is a bit disappointing in that regard.
How do find the TA on the mway? Is it ok or a bit harsh?surrey7er said:
Rrroro said:
Bought my TA back in November and have since covered just under 2,500 miles. The car seems to be averaging 40-45mpg, and that's a mixture of A/B road and motorway 80mph cruises. Great little car, planning to keep it for a while. The mpg wasn't a big factor in deciding to buy the car (it was more the 0 congestion charge, road tax and low insurance and income tax liability). However, must admit I did think mpg would be much better given Fiat's claims so it is a bit disappointing in that regard.
How do find the TA on the mway? Is it ok or a bit harsh?A friends wife has a Fiat 500 twin air, and she gets about 38mpg from it. They aren't overly concerned as it's fun to drive and she's only doing about 8k miles year, but it's certainly no where near the official figures. The tailpipe is always black (even after a long run) and the back of the car gets sooted up very quickly, which suggests it's running quite rich but it's been back to Fiat dealers a few times and they have said it's perfectly normal.
I've now done about 3200 miles (since buying new last November), and I'm averaging about 47mpg, which is good, but still way off the claims. Mpg improved when I realised that I didn't need to rev much to make half-decent progress. The way I'm achieving this mpg figure is changing up around 2-2,500 rpm max in every gear in normal driving - obviously changing at higher rev ranges if I NEED better acceleration. I used the Eco button once when I bought the car but haven't used it since, it was as if it switched off 1 of the 2 cylinders, it was pointless and made the car too weedy to be useable. I wonder if the key to higher mpg is using Eco, but I'm not willing to sacrifice that much performance in order to achieve higher mpg figures. Overall a great fun little car though, it's really the only thing I find disappointing about it!
Mr2Mike said:
A friends wife has a Fiat 500 twin air, and she gets about 38mpg from it. They aren't overly concerned as it's fun to drive and she's only doing about 8k miles year, but it's certainly no where near the official figures. The tailpipe is always black (even after a long run) and the back of the car gets sooted up very quickly, which suggests it's running quite rich but it's been back to Fiat dealers a few times and they have said it's perfectly normal.
I forgot to add that I'm not sure the above sooting is normal at all - I don't experience anything of the sort, and my TiwnAir's tailpipe is only a bit black. It could come down to driving style - if she's only getting 38mpg then I reckon she's probably driving hers a lot harder than I drive mine, hence the extra soot, etc. Maybe suggest driving for a month as per my previous post (ie changing gear at 2-2500 rpm) and see if that makes any difference? Hope this helps!Rrroro said:
I forgot to add that I'm not sure the above sooting is normal at all - I don't experience anything of the sort, and my TiwnAir's tailpipe is only a bit black. It could come down to driving style - if she's only getting 38mpg then I reckon she's probably driving hers a lot harder than I drive mine, hence the extra soot, etc. Maybe suggest driving for a month as per my previous post (ie changing gear at 2-2500 rpm) and see if that makes any difference? Hope this helps!
She was getting nearly the same from a 2.0 TSi Sirocco, so I don't think her driving is particularly uneconomical.It did previously have a fault that Fiat fixed, it was massively down on power and fuel consumption increased dramatically. After they fixed it, it was back up to it's original mediocre numbers.
Alfahorn said:
I'm a Fiat salesman. I love the Twinair, it's my favourite version of the 500. The Twinair has a £1200 premium over the 1.2, therefore I tend to sell more 1.2's as the justification for buying a Twinair is similar to that of a diesel.
Alfahorn said:
I drove the Twinair for week and achieved 53 mpg, which I think more than reasonable.
Really? Wow! You should be teaching everyone else to drive them!A salesman who attempts to achieve reasonable fuel economy? nah!
Anyone else heard of a lady in the United states suing honda for the misrepresentation of mpgs.
Surely Fiat are going to get a few complaints? Shame really given that its showing the future of motoring, cars need to get lighter engines need to be smaller (and turbo charged as ford are doing)
Any one run a Abarth 500? The offical fuel figures are in the low 40s, would be odd to think that if this is correct the eco car is harder on the wallet than the range topper!
Surely Fiat are going to get a few complaints? Shame really given that its showing the future of motoring, cars need to get lighter engines need to be smaller (and turbo charged as ford are doing)
Any one run a Abarth 500? The offical fuel figures are in the low 40s, would be odd to think that if this is correct the eco car is harder on the wallet than the range topper!
It's not just about the fuel economy re the Abarth. TwinAir purchase price, insurance, road tax are all a lot cheaper and there is no congestion charge for those of us living in central London. All those costs outweigh the fuel argument for me personally. However having said that I am mildly miffed that the mpg is nowhere near the claims. When buying the car I did think I would easily achieve around mid-50's, maybe 60, but generally achieving about 45ish which is way off (after about 3300 miles since new)
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