How many pull ups is a decent target?

How many pull ups is a decent target?

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jaedba2604

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1,856 posts

148 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Standard, overhand grip, bodyweight...what do you reckon? reps / sets?

Blue Oval84

5,276 posts

162 months

Sunday 26th February 2012
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Well I started off with 1 set of 1 rep.

Now up to 3 sets, 5 reps. smile

I just aim to do as many as I can in 3 sets!

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Nice going, Blue Oval.

I do 5x10 if not using extra weight. But it's down to what you can actually manage. If you can bang 30 out in one go, then 5x10 is a waste of your time.

Animal

5,250 posts

269 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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100 against the clock. My current target is to beat 12 min 30 sec.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Anything approaching 20 in one go is pretty impressive for most people (with correct form)
I always notice when people start on the pullups in the gym and I've yet to see anyone i have been astounded at... most seem to knock off after 10-15 despite muscle size

jaedba2604

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1,856 posts

148 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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yes, i'd say 15 to 20 in one set with good form is a reasonable target.

whilst there is an argument that a bigger person will have bigger legs and they are, proportionally, the biggest muscles in the body i am always astounded by the 'weightlifters' who quote their bodyweight when talking about numbers.

to me, and i stand to be corrected, the whole point of 'bodyweight' exercises is that they are a reasonably level playing field for all size types...having said that i guess popeye types with huge arms and skinny legs would be better equipped for a pull up type exercise..

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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speedmachine

366 posts

208 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Animal said:
100 against the clock. My current target is to beat 12 min 30 sec.
100! Your username is very apt! (That's supposed to be a compliment).
I can manage 17 on the first set if I really try. This was done when competing with someone who had set a target of 14 reps. But normally I get to about 12 - 14 and stop. The effect of training with someone to push is amazing.

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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3 x 10 reps would put you ahead of most normal people I'd say, but it does depend on build. I spent five years climbing quite hard and with my scrawny little chicken legs and climbers arms, would happily notch up 30. Not so today...

I'd also say, once you can do 3 x 10, start playing about. Jumps from close to wide to close grip, fast up and slow lower, two arms up and one down and so on.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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jaedba2604 said:
yes, i'd say 15 to 20 in one set with good form is a reasonable target.

whilst there is an argument that a bigger person will have bigger legs and they are, proportionally, the biggest muscles in the body i am always astounded by the 'weightlifters' who quote their bodyweight when talking about numbers.

to me, and i stand to be corrected, the whole point of 'bodyweight' exercises is that they are a reasonably level playing field for all size types...having said that i guess popeye types with huge arms and skinny legs would be better equipped for a pull up type exercise..
More about lever length - someone with long arms is not going to do the reps of someone with short arms - given same (pro rata) body size.

gareth h

3,554 posts

231 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Tiggsy said:
More about lever length - someone with long arms is not going to do the reps of someone with short arms - given same (pro rata) body size.
Do levers come into it, you are pretty much pulling straight up?

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Your lats are trying to pull your upper arm down to your side - if that upper arm is longer surely the lever works against you?

Reverse of holding a weight out from the body.

Cheib

23,274 posts

176 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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As others have said 20 is definitely a good target. Body type deffo comes into it...at least for me it does.....my legs are proportionately bigger than my arms....just the way I am built. I've got normal arms but big legs basically! Great for riding a bike or even rowing....less so for pull up's!


didelydoo

5,528 posts

211 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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jaedba2604 said:
to me, and i stand to be corrected, the whole point of 'bodyweight' exercises is that they are a reasonably level playing field for all size types...having said that i guess popeye types with huge arms and skinny legs would be better equipped for a pull up type exercise..
How many pull ups do you think WSM winner Brian Shaw can do? Not a lot I'd guess because he weighs over 200kg. Lighter people are almost always at an advantage with regard to BW type exercises.

fadeaway

1,463 posts

227 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Smitters said:
3 x 10 reps would put you ahead of most normal people I'd say
1 pull up with good form would easily put you ahead of most normal people laugh

unless you're only including people who work out...



jaedba2604

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1,856 posts

148 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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How many pull ups do you think WSM winner Brian Shaw can do? Not a lot I'd guess because he weighs over 200kg. Lighter people are almost always at an advantage with regard to BW type exercises.

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Why though? I see what you mean, but assuming you have not distributed your strength training disproportionately your arms should have strength relative to your body weight, exceptions to this would be chris hoy types.

if he's 3 times heavier than me he should be 3 times stronger than me. in fact there's an argument to suggest that given the 'dead weight' of bones/organs/brains carried by every person the additional weight should be mostly muscle.

I'm not arguing as such, i just don't get the logic behind this way of thinking...

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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didelydoo said:
jaedba2604 said:
to me, and i stand to be corrected, the whole point of 'bodyweight' exercises is that they are a reasonably level playing field for all size types...having said that i guess popeye types with huge arms and skinny legs would be better equipped for a pull up type exercise..
How many pull ups do you think WSM winner Brian Shaw can do? Not a lot I'd guess because he weighs over 200kg. Lighter people are almost always at an advantage with regard to BW type exercises.
Light people, short arms.

Gymnast - lots of pull ups. Dwight Howard, less so.

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Had to google the name. Why pick an obscure american netballist?

996 sps

6,165 posts

217 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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Animal said:
100 against the clock. My current target is to beat 12 min 30 sec.
That's brilliant took me an hour to do 250.

Animal

5,250 posts

269 months

Monday 27th February 2012
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996 sps said:
Animal said:
100 against the clock. My current target is to beat 12 min 30 sec.
That's brilliant took me an hour to do 250.
My first set was 21 and it took me 4 and a half mins to get to 50. The first set was the only one into double figures, each set after that was 2-7 reps tops. But it's just a matter of dropping for a couple of breaths and a few seconds rest and then grinding out a few more.

If I was to be very harsh I'd say that I could discount 8-10 reps as being a short ROM or being generally poor form, but I'm happy with anything under 15 minutes. Maybe I'll try 10x10 next time!

I can't imagine doing 250 in an hour, that's as mental as Mikko Salo doing 1,000 burpees in one go (took him 82 minutes)...