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I seriously doubt that its massively dangerous (this is probably the strongest part of the car, massive amounts of tube work under there around the diff), but it would totally invalidate your insurance.
What puzzles me is that you can fit a third row of rear facing seats in the back of a Montego or the like, so whats the difference? And what about stretched limos? Few more seats in those than they were built with.
You would have thought that if someone could design a robust enough framework bolted through to the chassis (and fitted in conjunction with a sturdy rollbar), some kindly insurer would take on the risk? Any insurers out there with an opinion?
>> Edited by philshort on Wednesday 29th May 23:19
What puzzles me is that you can fit a third row of rear facing seats in the back of a Montego or the like, so whats the difference? And what about stretched limos? Few more seats in those than they were built with.
You would have thought that if someone could design a robust enough framework bolted through to the chassis (and fitted in conjunction with a sturdy rollbar), some kindly insurer would take on the risk? Any insurers out there with an opinion?
>> Edited by philshort on Wednesday 29th May 23:19
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I seriously doubt that its massively dangerous (this is probably the strongest part of the car, massive amounts of tube work under there around the diff), but it would totally invalidate your insurance.
What puzzles me is that you can fit a third row of rear facing seats in the back of a Montego or the like, so whats the difference? And what about stretched limos? Few more seats in those than they were built with.
You would have thought that if someone could design a robust enough framework bolted through to the chassis (and fitted in conjunction with a sturdy rollbar), some kindly insurer would take on the risk? Any insurers out there with an opinion?
You are right it is hardly dangerous at all, and of course there is the added benefit that the kiddies seat or head could act as a roll over bar in the event of an accident.
Bennno
I've seen it done in an S and a Chimaera.
The S owner used a lapbelt in the back for his baby.
The Chimaera owner had his kids (two of them) perched on the back shelf.
Both examples of extreme irresponsible behaviour IMHO.
In an accident, a child has little protection in these circumstances. Also, flying objects in your cabin can kill (imagine being hit on the back if the head by a 25 kilo object travelling at high speed). Even in a lapbelt in the back (though I'm not sure where it would be anchored) there is no head support to reduce whiplash.
It amazes me that people do this. Like when you see parents strapping themselves into a normal saloon car but not the kids in the back. I mean, the adult has the sense to wear a belt but is selfish enough not to recognise that he/she has to think for the child too who, at such a young age has no concept of the risk of travelling in a car. Even worse are those parents who carry their baby in their lap in the front. Kids in these circumstances don't really have a choice - it is up to parents to take care of the safety issue. The fact that so many don't seems to me to be a horrendous lack of judgement on the part of some adults.
After all these kids are future PHers!
Be safe out there...
AF
The S owner used a lapbelt in the back for his baby.
The Chimaera owner had his kids (two of them) perched on the back shelf.
Both examples of extreme irresponsible behaviour IMHO.
In an accident, a child has little protection in these circumstances. Also, flying objects in your cabin can kill (imagine being hit on the back if the head by a 25 kilo object travelling at high speed). Even in a lapbelt in the back (though I'm not sure where it would be anchored) there is no head support to reduce whiplash.
It amazes me that people do this. Like when you see parents strapping themselves into a normal saloon car but not the kids in the back. I mean, the adult has the sense to wear a belt but is selfish enough not to recognise that he/she has to think for the child too who, at such a young age has no concept of the risk of travelling in a car. Even worse are those parents who carry their baby in their lap in the front. Kids in these circumstances don't really have a choice - it is up to parents to take care of the safety issue. The fact that so many don't seems to me to be a horrendous lack of judgement on the part of some adults.
After all these kids are future PHers!
Be safe out there...
AF
i was thinking of a properly built frame that would bolt directly onto the chassis and the proper child seat would be bolted onto the frame the frame could be built with an role bar for it,
i would think this would be safer than the flimsy affairs that seem to flop about in the back of most cars
i would think this would be safer than the flimsy affairs that seem to flop about in the back of most cars
nah, its still very dangerous. There is no way you would get a child seat in the back and a roll bar sufficiently large enough to protect the childs head and still get the roof up.
as below you are going to have to either leave the wife behind or the child, or go out in the family saloon.
Bennno
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