Check the back face of your disks!!!

Check the back face of your disks!!!

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MMT

Original Poster:

598 posts

186 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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How bad are these disks. I know now the experienced Porsche guys are aware of this, but anybody new to them, give them a good check in the rear face.
Mine just started making a bit of a grumble when braking, but looking through the spokes everything looked fine. Had a feel at the back face and they are shocking.
Eurocarparts had a 25% discount code running last weekend, so new Pagid disks and pads all round £280 in stock too. Took me about 4 hours to fit.

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markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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For some reason the Pistons are lazy on the back side and might actually be seized looking at your photo. This might explain some of the braking deficiency in these cars. That's a good price not worth getting the discs refaced for that.

Koln-RS

3,865 posts

212 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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Wash your car and put it in the garage - is often the cause. Needs a decent run with some hard braking to dry out the back of the discs.

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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But no point fitting the new discs until the caliper/piston issue has been resolved.

They'll be scrap soon too.

ZDW

60 posts

100 months

Friday 3rd June 2016
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I had this too. Only found out after there was a sudden judder under braking. The outside was nice and shiny. It looked like the inside steel facing had delaminated from the rest of the disc. Here it is after I took a hammer to it to see how solid the remaining surface was - not very...

MMT

Original Poster:

598 posts

186 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Why would it happen on all four wheels if it was a dodgy piston, they all pushed back in fine. When I looked on YouTube to get a feel for what was involved they all seemed to be the same on there.

DRH986

284 posts

144 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Two years ago I had to replace the front discs on my Cayman daily driver as they were in this state. As the discs were perfect when I bought the car two years before that and I'd religiously dried them off after every wash, I was miffed to say the least.

So I came up with a theory that my regular commute does not generate enough heat build up in the brakes. This means that all the wet air channelled to the rear faces of the discs by the cooling ducts on wet journeys leaves the rear faces wet at the end of the journey as there's no heat to dry them.

So for the last two years, I've made a point at the end of a wet journey of getting the brakes warmed up. This is the only change I've made in how the car is used and the discs are perfect still.

monty999

1,123 posts

105 months

Saturday 4th June 2016
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Mine were exactly the same. when I took the old ones off I was amazed just how bad the backs were compared to the front which were just mildly grooved. Kind of more justified the change really.

Edited by monty999 on Saturday 4th June 10:06

freshy

33 posts

211 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Would disc skimming be a solution to a corroded back face?

DJMC

3,438 posts

103 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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freshy said:
Would disc skimming be a solution to a corroded back face?
Not if it's as bad as that photo above.

I'd guess in most cases you'd need to take too much off to remain within spec.

Trev450

6,323 posts

172 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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I've posted on this topic in the past as I have never owned a car that rusts the backs of the discs anywhere as near as quickly and badly as my CS does. I've owned the car for six years, covered around 35K miles and am currently on my fourth set of discs. I'm of the opinion that it is a combination of, the cooling ducts directing water, salt, etc, onto the rear face of the discs, a backplate that has very little opening to allow them to dry, and possibly crap material (read high carbon content)used in the manufacture of them.

W12GT

3,530 posts

221 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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Very very common problem - Porsche make brakes that are good at stopping but unfortunately they all (except PCCB) do this - one of my old 911's looked like this after about 10k miles (1year).

I was told its due to air not getting around the back and drying out - apparently made spare if you put a wet car in a the garage or under cover.

You should be able to feel it through the pedal and steering wheel when breaking firmly from 70 ish down to 30 ish

ChrisW.

6,306 posts

255 months

Tuesday 7th June 2016
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But you wouldn't believe that from the outside .... the difference is astonishing ...

I had the same on my Boxster that always lived outside, one of the reasons I like PCCB's ...

monty999

1,123 posts

105 months

Wednesday 8th June 2016
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This is not just a porsche characteristic, just done daughters Mini Cooper discs and rear ones ok outside face but the back were completely shot .