Definition of Full Service History
Discussion
To me, "full" means that it has not missed or unduly delayed a service - i.e. has the stamps at the correct intervals.
When selling I have provided as many receipts as possible (including getting copies of service print out from the dealer to show what work has been done) but I would say a properly stamped book without receipts is still a "full" history.
Why, out of interest?
When selling I have provided as many receipts as possible (including getting copies of service print out from the dealer to show what work has been done) but I would say a properly stamped book without receipts is still a "full" history.
Why, out of interest?
sco said:
I would say a properly stamped book without receipts is still a "full" history.
My (car salesman) mate used to make some money on the side by stamping incomplete service books with the company's stamp - amazing how the addition of a few of those stamps massively increased the value of those cars - and not once did any buyer bother to check that history out with the dealer either.
rubystone said:
I would say a properly stamped book without receipts is still a "full" history.
My (car salesman) mate used to make some money on the side by stamping incomplete service books with the company's stamp - amazing how the addition of a few of those stamps massively increased the value of those cars - and not once did any buyer bother to check that history out with the dealer either.
Ive heard of this as well.
Thats why the additional paperwork is important IMO.
Dealers will only confirm the servicing has been done then spout out the Data protection act regulations so they do not have to give more info out.
I would'nt believe anything that's in a service book as it's easily forged. I'd like to see the actual receipts.
I've also noticed that some Ferrai's have large gaps in their history. An owner who has not serviced the car for two or three years because he's only done 2,000 in that period. Or one particular car that I saw that had'nt been serviced for over 4 years as it was in "storage".
Personally I'd walk away........
But then ....... I'm a pedantic cynic!
I've also noticed that some Ferrai's have large gaps in their history. An owner who has not serviced the car for two or three years because he's only done 2,000 in that period. Or one particular car that I saw that had'nt been serviced for over 4 years as it was in "storage".
Personally I'd walk away........
But then ....... I'm a pedantic cynic!
Angelis said:
I would'nt believe anything that's in a service book as it's easily forged. I'd like to see the actual receipts.
I've also noticed that some Ferrai's have large gaps in their history. An owner who has not serviced the car for two or three years because he's only done 2,000 in that period. Or one particular car that I saw that had'nt been serviced for over 4 years as it was in "storage".
Personally I'd walk away........
But then ....... I'm a pedantic cynic!
But then ....... I'm a pedantic cynic!
Best way to be when you are buying IMO !
I've come accross this 'problem' recently.
A seller of a fairly rare sportscar/GT informed me that the car had a FSH, new clutch and new cambelt.
His definition of 'new' meant 20,000 miles for the clutch and 3 years for the cambelt! The FSH was actually quite good up until he 'stored' it - he couldn't see that is was due an expensive service on time rather than mileage. The car looked mint, but I walked away - too many quesiton marks and concerns with his statements.
There are lots of (most) cars around, so another will come up with all the boxes ticked.
A seller of a fairly rare sportscar/GT informed me that the car had a FSH, new clutch and new cambelt.
His definition of 'new' meant 20,000 miles for the clutch and 3 years for the cambelt! The FSH was actually quite good up until he 'stored' it - he couldn't see that is was due an expensive service on time rather than mileage. The car looked mint, but I walked away - too many quesiton marks and concerns with his statements.
There are lots of (most) cars around, so another will come up with all the boxes ticked.
If the bills aren't there, I always regard the book with total cynicism. Doesn't mean I'd not buy the car - my last 911 had no service history prior to being imported in into the UK, but everything else about the car told me that the car hadn't been clocked.
Of course what I didn't know was how regularly the car had actually been serviced, but the clutch didn't slip, there were no untoward noises and the engine pulled like a train and drank no oil. That was good enough for me.
Of course what I didn't know was how regularly the car had actually been serviced, but the clutch didn't slip, there were no untoward noises and the engine pulled like a train and drank no oil. That was good enough for me.
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