Political censorship by old Bill.
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Driver forced by Essex Police to remove anti Brexit slogan:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
Etypephil said:
Driver forced by Essex Police to remove anti Brexit slogan:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
Read the article again. The driver was asked to remove the word bwww.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
ks. Nothing to do with politics or Brexit.
RM said:
Etypephil said:
Driver forced by Essex Police to remove anti Brexit slogan:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
Read the article again. The driver was asked to remove the word bwww.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-50544243
Whilst I don’t agree with the sentiment expressed by the sticker, the cop concerned should be fired for gross misconduct and prosecuted for misconduct in public office, IMO.
ks. Nothing to do with politics or Brexit.zarjaz1991 said:
It doesn't take a genius to work this one out.
It's the word they objected to, not the slogan. Some people may consider it offensive.
Me, I'll jump all over the police at the slightest whiff of an opportunity, but here I think they were correct.
From the BBC article:It's the word they objected to, not the slogan. Some people may consider it offensive.
Me, I'll jump all over the police at the slightest whiff of an opportunity, but here I think they were correct.
"In November 1977, Nottingham Magistrates' Court ruled "b
ks" was not an obscene word in the case of a record store manager who had been arrested for displaying the Sex Pistols' debut album Never Mind The bks, Here's The Sex Pistols."Drumroll said:
Wouldn't call it political censorship at all. Whist a magistrate may have decided b0ll0cks is not an offensive word, it doesn't mean some do not find it offensive.
I find many things (including the slogan in question) offensive, but that doesn't mean that a cop has the right to put a stop to them.As per the article, the word "bks" was the only thing they were made to remove.
As with all matters that oppress free speech, any outcome will always putting the rights of some people above the rights of others. At what point do you draw the line though? Should someone taking offence be sufficient cause to oppress speech, or should it cause (or be likely to cause) demonstrable harm somehow?
ks" was the only thing they were made to remove.As with all matters that oppress free speech, any outcome will always putting the rights of some people above the rights of others. At what point do you draw the line though? Should someone taking offence be sufficient cause to oppress speech, or should it cause (or be likely to cause) demonstrable harm somehow?
flashbang said:
Slightly O/T....
Someone told me yesterday that the word "uppity" has been banned from ITV as it's a racist word?
Not banned as such, it was because it was used to describe Megan Markle or whatever her name is and the word has a different meaning in the US. Eamon Holmes had to apologies in case it was taken the wrong way... of course he clearly meant it as posh/arrogant and was referring to the UK definition. Someone told me yesterday that the word "uppity" has been banned from ITV as it's a racist word?
donkmeister said:
As per the article, the word "bks" was the only thing they were made to remove.
As with all matters that oppress free speech, any outcome will always putting the rights of some people above the rights of others. At what point do you draw the line though? Should someone taking offence be sufficient cause to oppress speech, or should it cause (or be likely to cause) demonstrable harm somehow?
So are you saying we should be able to use any words without consequences? ks" was the only thing they were made to remove.As with all matters that oppress free speech, any outcome will always putting the rights of some people above the rights of others. At what point do you draw the line though? Should someone taking offence be sufficient cause to oppress speech, or should it cause (or be likely to cause) demonstrable harm somehow?
Where is being asked to remove a single written word oppressing speech.
in your world this is acceptable: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50529...
After all it is free speech.
J2daG1990 said:
flashbang said:
Slightly O/T....
Someone told me yesterday that the word "uppity" has been banned from ITV as it's a racist word?
Not banned as such, it was because it was used to describe Megan Markle or whatever her name is and the word has a different meaning in the US. Eamon Holmes had to apologies in case it was taken the wrong way... of course he clearly meant it as posh/arrogant and was referring to the UK definition. Someone told me yesterday that the word "uppity" has been banned from ITV as it's a racist word?
bks to Brexit bus parked outside parliament:
"A spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police said they were not currently investigating the bus or the protestors."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1055751/br...
Bercow had the sign in his car: (sorry, his wife's car):
https://order-order.com/2018/03/13/bercow-says-bol...
Pimlico Plumbers have a MASSIVE sign on the roof of their offices:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/m...
Ironically two of the above links are blocked by the PH profanity filter
ks to Brexit bus parked outside parliament:"A spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police said they were not currently investigating the bus or the protestors."
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1055751/br...
Bercow had the sign in his car: (sorry, his wife's car):
https://order-order.com/2018/03/13/bercow-says-bol...
Pimlico Plumbers have a MASSIVE sign on the roof of their offices:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/05/m...
Ironically two of the above links are blocked by the PH profanity filter
Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 25th November 18:55
Roofless Toothless said:
I've just been reading with my six year old grand daughter. She's devouring anything she can read at the moment. If we walked past that car and she asked "what's bks mean, poppa?" I would be pretty annoyed. I think it is crude and thoughtless to display that sign.
"it's a rude word , ask your dad" ks mean, poppa?" I would be pretty annoyed. I think it is crude and thoughtless to display that sign.HTH.
It's not snowflakey at all, as a society we are more liberal with language than we've ever been. I, too, would be irritated if my 6 year old read a swear word emblazoned on the side of a car in the same way that I find it unacceptable for people to be swearing around children in public.
In my view the word b*locks displayed in public would constitute a s5 POA offence. I was unaware of any case law around the particular word and its not reasonable to expect the officer to have been either but common sense would suggest its covered in the same way as other swear words. That said I do think the officer would have to have been epically bored to make an issue if it.
In my view the word b*locks displayed in public would constitute a s5 POA offence. I was unaware of any case law around the particular word and its not reasonable to expect the officer to have been either but common sense would suggest its covered in the same way as other swear words. That said I do think the officer would have to have been epically bored to make an issue if it.
R1 Dave said:
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In my view the word b*locks displayed in public would constitute a s5 POA offence. I was unaware of any case law around the particular word and its not reasonable to expect the officer to have been either .
I think it's perfectly reasonable for the officer to be knowledgeable about the law he is trying to enforce.In my view the word b*locks displayed in public would constitute a s5 POA offence. I was unaware of any case law around the particular word and its not reasonable to expect the officer to have been either .
Bert
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