Zenith Blue Porsche 996 911 C2 Manual Cab

Zenith Blue Porsche 996 911 C2 Manual Cab

Author
Discussion

GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
quotequote all
I’ve had the itch to buy a 911 for a while – I was initially looking at 997’s but in the end decided that the 996’s offered more value for money, and given that this was to be a 4th car that seemed to make even more sense!

My friend is getting married in Germany in the summer, and I wanted to get a car to combine that with a European road trip…a 911 seemed like the perfect choice!

I have a bit of finding a car online, deciding I like it and then just going for it without driving or even viewing other similar cars. In fact, of the 12 cars I’ve purchased in my 13 years of driving, only one wasn’t bought using this mentality! It’s worked out OK so far…

This Porsche was no exception. I’d seen the photos and the ad online, decided I liked it, and contacted the seller to arrange a viewing. So early one morning, I set off from the train station on the way to the south coast…obligatory coffee in hand!
Of course, I only booked a one-way ticket…!





A few hours later (Southern trains are horrible – now I know why I try and drive everywhere…) and I’d arrived at my destination!



One thing I do do before viewing is research – I’d soaked up as much information as possible by reading forums and guides online about 996 ownership, so I knew at least a few of the things to look for.

I found a few issues with the car on inspection – the air con wasn’t working. The seller explained it probably just needed a recharge…I knew this was unlikely to be the case and that the air con rads that are exposed at the front of the car would probably be shot and require replacement.

There was mayo on the oil fill tube but this is common on 911’s, especially in the colder months. Dipstick looked fine, as did the coolant. There was some coolant around the expansion tank, however, but the level was good so I carried on.

The alloys needed a refurb due to kerbing – it’s not too bad but needs doing. The car has OZ Alleggerita alloys in Titanium Tech (I think), which look great, but I imagine getting a colour match won’t be fun!

The car hadn’t had a service in 2 years…but had only covered 1,000 miles in that period, so I was OK with that, considering I like to do a full service myself, anyway!

Onto the test drive…it was great. Everything just felt really well put together and refined – I instantly knew I wouldn’t be buying a return ticket to get home (as if there was any doubt anyway…)!

So, with a slight reduction in asking price, my journey home began! It covered the 150mile trip faultlessly, and was a lot more fun than the train was on the way! After a clean over the next couple of days…here it is!

It’s a 2000 911 996 C2 Manual Cab in Zenith Blue, has the aerokit front bumper and sideskirts, a Metropol blue interior, and has 91,500miles on the clock. I’m in love already! It’s got the hard top as well but I’d taken that off to clean.











So, my plans for the car to get it ready for the summer road trip!

Firstly, a full, major service…oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, drive belt, pollen filter, spark plugs, manual transmission oil, coolant change and brake fluid change. I like to get all these things done and keep well on top of maintenance, just makes preventative sense to me. (Plus I enjoy it…!)

New gas struts for the frunk (or whatever it’s called) as they close themselves on your head after a couple of seconds…

Some new tyres (pretty sure I’m going with Michelin PS4’s) – I’d asked the seller on the phone how the tyres were, who confirmed they were in great condition with plenty of tread. I then completely forgot to check when viewing – turns out there is a reasonable amount of tread…but the front tyres are 13 years old and the rears 7.5 and 2.5…needless to say I’m going to get them all changed – I’d not heard good things about the Pirellis anyway.
I’ll get the tracking checked at the same time.

Add cruise control – for some of the longer stints in Europe I think this will be very useful – it involves purchasing the stalks, wiring it up and then getting it coded in by a specialist.

Air con fix – I’ve since had another look at the rads and part of the fins has actually completely separated! Couple of new rads on order and will fit and keep my fingers crossed that sorts the leaks…

Coolant issue – I mentioned earlier I noticed some coolant around the expansion tank. After my journey home the coolant level had dropped from Max to Min. A common problem on these is that the early expansion tank cap lets vapour out, hence dropping the level. Mine was indeed the original cap, so I’ve ordered a new variant – fingers crossed it fixes it.
If not, when I swap over the air con rads I’ll take a good look at the coolant rads, as these sit just behind and might have also taken a bit of a battering.
I’ll replace some missing wheel arch lining clips at this point as well!

“Gundo hack” – the exhaust is a little quiet…especially when one of my other cars is a TVR! This involves welding a bit of tubing between two existing tubes on the exhaust and is a relatively inexpensive way of boosting the throatiness of the sound.

Full detail – I’ll try and find the time to get my machine polisher out before I go and get the paint sparkling! I may do a recolour on the seats as well, although they’re actually in pretty decent condition so we’ll see how I get on.
Oh, and sort out the alloys as well.
And get some mats to replace the current ones as they’re horrid!

I was originally going to change the steering wheel for the 3 spoke version from photos – but in the flesh I actually really like the 4 spoke…it gives a nice retro feel to the interior. Given the cost to change I may well just keep it like this…

Someone will probably ask about the IMS – so here’s my stance on it. I don’t think it’s been done on this car, I can’t see anything in the paperwork (of which there is a decent chunk, with plenty of other work going on over the years!).
According to the engine code, this most likely has an earlier, more reliable dual row bearing. But it could still have a single – there’s no way of telling without taking it all apart.
Regardless, the failure rate is <1% for the dual row and <8% for the single. Also, they almost always go before 65k miles, so this car is a good chunk past that.
So, in my mind, the risk is very low. Of course, it could still happen – but stuff can happen on any car! I may consider putting an upgrade in during a clutch change, as that’s most of the labour out the way…but until then I’ll just keep my fingers crossed! hehe

There are probably a few other inevitable bits I’ll do and find along the way but I think I’ve probably waffled on enough – thanks for reading and well done if you’ve got this far!!
I’ll update in due course smile


Edited by GR_TVR on Tuesday 28th January 12:12

Sport220

646 posts

76 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
quotequote all
That's a great looking 996. Love the colour and wheels. Enjoy!

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
quotequote all
Very nice indeed, the 996 is aging pretty well

roboxm3

2,418 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
quotequote all
Looks great in that colour!

Re. the coolant level, my Boxster had the older type cap and would sweat a bit but it'd never lose that much coolant, even over a couple of months. You might be unlucky and have a split expansion bottle which apparently a right pig of a job buy entirely DIY-able with time a patience, so it might be worth some further investigation.

Other than that, just get some proper Porsche floor mats biggrin


shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th January 2020
quotequote all
Looks great! Interested to see how the restoration/recommissioning goes!

GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
quotequote all
Been quite busy recently. Looks like the summer road trip will be postponed but never mind…

I mentioned about hoping that the coolant leak was down to the expansion cap…thankfully I was right! A nice cheap fix – you can see here the .00 at the end of the part number, which are old/inferior/leak. Now replaced with a .04 latest version and all is good.



A full service has taken place. Oil (Shell Helix 5W-40), oil filter, fuel filter, air filter, pollen filter and drive belt all replaced.
I noticed the spark plug tubes were leaking a bit of oil, so changed the spark plug tubes, spark plugs and then all the coil packs – some were quite cracked so definitely due a change.







Gearbox oil has been changed for some Motul Gear 300 75W90 – should keep the shifts nice and smooth.

Gas struts for the frunk changed - now doesn’t hit me on the head.
Oh and I replaced the horrid car mats!

Air con rads and dryer changed…unfortunately it still won’t hold pressure so I need to throw some more money at this to find the leak. New rads look a lot nicer, though.



I fitted cruise control and the on-board computer. Quite intensive for this year car as you need to take off the steering wheel, dials and stalks to fit the new ones – then run cables from here back to the rear of the car behind the cab roof and into the DME. No real issues, and it all worked once the indy coded it in – happy days!





GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
quotequote all
I decided to change the water pump as a precaution (it had only covered 7,500 miles but was 5.5 years old – probably fine but figured why not) and also fitted a low temperature thermostat – a popular mod. Did the coolant at the same time (that jack just raises the engine a bit to make moving the engine mount structure a bit easier, it’s not supporting the car! hehe )



Old waterpump looked fine on removal, but did have a metal impeller. General consensus is that this is bad, so I’m happy I changed it for an OEM brand one with a composite impeller.





That brings me pretty much up to date – I’ve got some Dansk exhausts to go on, but that will probably wait till the lockdown is lifted.
Next steps are probably a full detail when I start getting bored again…

5mileofdeath

209 posts

69 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
quotequote all
Lovely car OP!

Would love a 996..


SiT

1,163 posts

202 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
quotequote all
Got a lot of love for these, seriously considered a 996 but got scared off with the stories of IMS, RMS and bore score but I like your take on it and before the prices sky rocket again I might take the plunge.

Keep the updates coming clap

Si

geraintthomas

900 posts

108 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
quotequote all
Love it. Keep the updates coming!

Gotta love that colour, quite jealous...

J.C...

156 posts

106 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
quotequote all
Your air con will probably be the front to rear air con pipe - they’re a pretty common failure. Easy enough to change other than a bit of a wrestle in the osf arch.
If you haven’t already bought them, I’d steer well clear of the Dansk exhausts - they used to be very good but the quality has absolutely plummeted in the last few years and there’s a lot of stories of failure, which I didn’t find out til mine had failed. Top Gear exhausts have a very good rep on the various FB groups and forums or if you’re feeling really flush the PSE can be bought direct from Eisenmann UK for a lot lot less than the dealer price.

I have exactly the same IMS attitude - if it goes, it goes and will be a good excuse to do the 4.0 conversion.

Looks a great car, good luck with it.

GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all

Thanks for the kind comments! I'd certainly recommend going for it if you're considering getting one...!

J.C... said:
Your air con will probably be the front to rear air con pipe - they’re a pretty common failure. Easy enough to change other than a bit of a wrestle in the osf arch.
If you haven’t already bought them, I’d steer well clear of the Dansk exhausts - they used to be very good but the quality has absolutely plummeted in the last few years and there’s a lot of stories of failure, which I didn’t find out til mine had failed. Top Gear exhausts have a very good rep on the various FB groups and forums or if you’re feeling really flush the PSE can be bought direct from Eisenmann UK for a lot lot less than the dealer price.

I have exactly the same IMS attitude - if it goes, it goes and will be a good excuse to do the 4.0 conversion.

Looks a great car, good luck with it.
You're probably right with the air con pipe - I'm hoping it's an obvious leak from somewhere like that so I can just change the offending pipe!

I bought some Dansk exhausts that had already failed, and am currently having some pipe and a new flexi fabricated to take care of the problem - fortunately I went into it all eyes wide open!
Have heard good things about Top Gear though, especially customer service (which is where Dansk seems to really suffer...)

Thanks! smile

GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
Changed the manifold to cat bolts today. After seeing and reading many horror stories I thought I’d see what mine were like...there are plenty of cases around where they've needed drilling out, which isn't much fun in the space. They're also threaded throughout so you can't just grind the head off and knock out I believe.

Pretty rusty was the answer! Fortunately, some perseverance with plus gas, heat and an impact driver and they all came out.

Now replaced with some nice new stainless bolts (M8x35mm). I’m glad I didn’t leave it much longer!




J.C...

156 posts

106 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
GR_TVR said:
You're probably right with the air con pipe - I'm hoping it's an obvious leak from somewhere like that so I can just change the offending pipe!

I bought some Dansk exhausts that had already failed, and am currently having some pipe and a new flexi fabricated to take care of the problem - fortunately I went into it all eyes wide open!
Have heard good things about Top Gear though, especially customer service (which is where Dansk seems to really suffer...)

Thanks! smile
I’d be really interested on how you get on with the Dansk refurb. I still have my failed pair and thought I could just get the flexi replaced and the box reskinned but I couldn’t find anyone that wanted to take it on - the quotes were more than a new pair of boxes ie please go away I don’t want to do it

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

97 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
J.C... said:
Your air con will probably be the front to rear air con pipe - they’re a pretty common failure. Easy enough to change other than a bit of a wrestle in the osf arch.
If you haven’t already bought them, I’d steer well clear of the Dansk exhausts - they used to be very good but the quality has absolutely plummeted in the last few years and there’s a lot of stories of failure, which I didn’t find out til mine had failed. Top Gear exhausts have a very good rep on the various FB groups and forums or if you’re feeling really flush the PSE can be bought direct from Eisenmann UK for a lot lot less than the dealer price.

I have exactly the same IMS attitude - if it goes, it goes and will be a good excuse to do the 4.0 conversion.

Looks a great car, good luck with it.
Hmm, I'm in the middle of replacing my rads and condensers on my C4S (waiting on parts as design911 have to order from Germany as Porsche UK are closed). The condensers fell apart in my hands but the front end is still pretty much off, what OSF pipe should I be looking at? Found a local mobile air con business who will do a pressure test prior to filling and if it fails it's only £20 so not the end of the world.

J.C...

156 posts

106 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
toastyhamster said:
Hmm, I'm in the middle of replacing my rads and condensers on my C4S (waiting on parts as design911 have to order from Germany as Porsche UK are closed). The condensers fell apart in my hands but the front end is still pretty much off, what OSF pipe should I be looking at? Found a local mobile air con business who will do a pressure test prior to filling and if it fails it's only £20 so not the end of the world.
From memory (so don’t take this as absolute gospel) on the os sill there’s two long metal pipes that run front to rear, they are the feed and return to and from the ac compressor and it’s them. Mine looked in good condition but as soon as the system was pressurised there was a tiny pinhole letting the gas out. Also when you replace your condensers make sure you replace the drier - ECP sell the genuine ones for about £30 and it’s a only 10 minute job but will preserve the life of your new condensers.

toastyhamster

1,664 posts

97 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
J.C... said:
toastyhamster said:
Hmm, I'm in the middle of replacing my rads and condensers on my C4S (waiting on parts as design911 have to order from Germany as Porsche UK are closed). The condensers fell apart in my hands but the front end is still pretty much off, what OSF pipe should I be looking at? Found a local mobile air con business who will do a pressure test prior to filling and if it fails it's only £20 so not the end of the world.
From memory (so don’t take this as absolute gospel) on the os sill there’s two long metal pipes that run front to rear, they are the feed and return to and from the ac compressor and it’s them. Mine looked in good condition but as soon as the system was pressurised there was a tiny pinhole letting the gas out. Also when you replace your condensers make sure you replace the drier - ECP sell the genuine ones for about £30 and it’s a only 10 minute job but will preserve the life of your new condensers.
Thanks, whenever the parts come I ordered a "kit" from design911 and that includes dryer and all the o rings. Pity it's on hold as one line item is out of stock. Just had the rads arrive today a week after ordering (first set damaged in transit), could only fit one side as I'm waiting on coolant clips. Frustrating. If the OPCs had been open it would have been done by now, but hey ho.

Damn, those pipes aren't cheap. I'm already up to nearly a grand in parts as I've had to spend a fortune on replacing rusty fasteners, and the n/s wheel arch. The state of the rads, jeez. Amazed they weren't leaking and the amount of crud :-( I don't think they'd ever been cleaned out. There's some pics in the Porsche forum.

J.C...

156 posts

106 months

Friday 1st May 2020
quotequote all
toastyhamster said:
Thanks, whenever the parts come I ordered a "kit" from design911 and that includes dryer and all the o rings. Pity it's on hold as one line item is out of stock. Just had the rads arrive today a week after ordering (first set damaged in transit), could only fit one side as I'm waiting on coolant clips. Frustrating. If the OPCs had been open it would have been done by now, but hey ho.

Damn, those pipes aren't cheap. I'm already up to nearly a grand in parts as I've had to spend a fortune on replacing rusty fasteners, and the n/s wheel arch. The state of the rads, jeez. Amazed they weren't leaking and the amount of crud :-( I don't think they'd ever been cleaned out. There's some pics in the Porsche forum.
No they’re not cheap at all, but then is anything on an old Porsche? laugh One other thing I would recommend- stick some mesh on your ducts while your bumper is off. It’s amazing how effective it is at keeping the crud out of your condensers and rads. Sorry to spam up your thread OP but hopefully the info will help you too smile

GR_TVR

Original Poster:

714 posts

85 months

Friday 29th May 2020
quotequote all
Few updates...new tyres are getting fitted today. Watched a YT video on the Michelin PS4 and Goodyear F1 Asymmetric 5 and have decided on the Goodyears. Used the F1 3's over the years in other cars and always been very impressed, so we shall see!

The Dansk exhaust is now fitted and on the car - haven't driven it yet but sounds fantastic on the drive! I cut away the old flexi, had some new pipe fabricated for the other side of the flexi and then had a mobile welder come round and weld it up. Very pleased! I'll get some photos/videos in due course...

As can be seen in the photos from when I first got the car, the seats weren't the correct colour.
I've now sorted this, and am really pleased with how they've come out!

I fully prepped them using some leftovers from a Furniture Clinic kit used on my TVR, then used some leather filler to fill in some slight cracks.
A few sponge coats of the correct Metropol Blue followed by 3 spray applications and a matt finish.


shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Friday 29th May 2020
quotequote all
Which Dansk box did you get? Would be interested to hear some sound clips! I've got some second hand Dansk boxes which also had a busted flexi - got that fixed for £20 or so but they're pretty loud and I'm concerned they might be too much for a track day....