Stage 2+ Shopping Trolley - GTI Edition 30 Content
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Pretty standard thread here I imagine but thought I’d track the progress of this car too.
We have two cars in our household - An Audi S6 V10 (thread here) and what was an 03 model Seat Ibiza. This car was given to me for free by a friend for helping him buy a new car. It had a snapped front coil spring, broken drivers window and was desperately overdue a cam belt. After fixing it up it provided excellent service for nearly 3 years in the end! It was mainly used by my wife for ferrying the kids around locally and it gave valiant service. Since we moved and it was seeing more regular service it was starting to become a bit of a pain day to day - it was just too small (neither of us could fit in the passenger seat when the kids were in the back) and the remote fobs stopped working meaning the alarm kept going off etc. It was also very long in the tooth and rather tatty.
Long story short we decided a new car was what was needed. My wife has always wanted a golf and I have a particular soft spot for MK5 GTI’s after mucking around with a new edition 30 when I was younger. Having a look about we decided to go for the Edition 30 as they seemed to be holding their money well.
I wanted a manual so it could also be a bit of a fun car and must have spec was Xenons, High Line Computer, grey or black, half leather interior (for those tartan seats) and 5 door.
For those of you that don’t know - the edition 30 isn’t just a trim change. It features the tartan seats, golf ball gear knob and (in my eyes) lovely Pescara alloys. But it also has a different engine. It’s essentially the same engine as was in the 8p Audi S3 and MK6 golf R, so strengthened internals and the larger K04 turbo. It was just slightly detuned and FWD.
After looking on the usual sites for a while I decided to post on the edition 30 owners group on Facebook.
Had a couple of PM’s but this particular one caught my eye. It was a 66k mile car with xenons, sat nav, high line clocks, ambient lighting/puddle lights and in black. Pics looked immaculate and it had a full service history and 2 previous owners
Oh - and it was running APR’s Stage 2+ package. Which meant somewhere around 360 - 380 or so bhp.
One of the previous owners was a mechanic at a VAG specialist that were also an APR dealer so this is roughly when the modifications were done.
It includes;
APR Downpipe with sports cat
VWR intake
R8 coil packs
RS4 Fuel Return valve
Scorpion exhaust
VWR springs/dampers
Helix clutch
APR high pressure fuel pump
Anti lift kit
S3 intercooler
Intake runner flap delete
A train up to Leeds was booked. The car was as expected - pretty tidy for what is a 12 year old car. It drove great and pulled exceptionally well. The front end had been resprayed a year or two previously (due to the notorious mk5 rusty arches) so was in excellent condition, the rear was very good for a 12 year old black car. Some swirling in the clear coat and some minor blemishes that would be nearly invisible on any colour other than black! Nothing a good detail wouldn’t resolve.
Money paid and I started the trip back down to Reading. In the best way the trip was uneventful - car ran great, not as quiet as the S6 on a cruise but the seats were excellent. Had a few chances to open it up and I was genuinely shocked at not just how quick it was but also how much like a standard golf it still felt - only the slightly heavier clutch gave it away.
Keen to see what it was actually like a friend and I took it out with the Audi. I knew it felt quick but bum dyno’s can often be fooled by the large surge of torque from a turbo. Without a doubt though the golf is far quicker than S6 when rolling - pulling a number of car lengths on it.
The car is a bit of an animal when it comes on boost - but puts its power down remarkably well considering. I don’t doubt the 365bhp figure at all and suspect it may be slightly healthier.
Plans for the car -
Replace awful black VW badges with original chrome - done!
Replace red GTI grill badge with original chrome - done!
Reinstall rear GTI badge
Replace stereo with either RNS510 or newer VW unit
Remove parrot kit
Car is going to the specialist who I use for my S6 for an inspection service, will get them to check the cam follower at the same time. They are also an APR dealer so will check exactly what map is on the car etc.
Enjoy It!
Couple of pics
We have two cars in our household - An Audi S6 V10 (thread here) and what was an 03 model Seat Ibiza. This car was given to me for free by a friend for helping him buy a new car. It had a snapped front coil spring, broken drivers window and was desperately overdue a cam belt. After fixing it up it provided excellent service for nearly 3 years in the end! It was mainly used by my wife for ferrying the kids around locally and it gave valiant service. Since we moved and it was seeing more regular service it was starting to become a bit of a pain day to day - it was just too small (neither of us could fit in the passenger seat when the kids were in the back) and the remote fobs stopped working meaning the alarm kept going off etc. It was also very long in the tooth and rather tatty.
Long story short we decided a new car was what was needed. My wife has always wanted a golf and I have a particular soft spot for MK5 GTI’s after mucking around with a new edition 30 when I was younger. Having a look about we decided to go for the Edition 30 as they seemed to be holding their money well.
I wanted a manual so it could also be a bit of a fun car and must have spec was Xenons, High Line Computer, grey or black, half leather interior (for those tartan seats) and 5 door.
For those of you that don’t know - the edition 30 isn’t just a trim change. It features the tartan seats, golf ball gear knob and (in my eyes) lovely Pescara alloys. But it also has a different engine. It’s essentially the same engine as was in the 8p Audi S3 and MK6 golf R, so strengthened internals and the larger K04 turbo. It was just slightly detuned and FWD.
After looking on the usual sites for a while I decided to post on the edition 30 owners group on Facebook.
Had a couple of PM’s but this particular one caught my eye. It was a 66k mile car with xenons, sat nav, high line clocks, ambient lighting/puddle lights and in black. Pics looked immaculate and it had a full service history and 2 previous owners
Oh - and it was running APR’s Stage 2+ package. Which meant somewhere around 360 - 380 or so bhp.
One of the previous owners was a mechanic at a VAG specialist that were also an APR dealer so this is roughly when the modifications were done.
It includes;
APR Downpipe with sports cat
VWR intake
R8 coil packs
RS4 Fuel Return valve
Scorpion exhaust
VWR springs/dampers
Helix clutch
APR high pressure fuel pump
Anti lift kit
S3 intercooler
Intake runner flap delete
A train up to Leeds was booked. The car was as expected - pretty tidy for what is a 12 year old car. It drove great and pulled exceptionally well. The front end had been resprayed a year or two previously (due to the notorious mk5 rusty arches) so was in excellent condition, the rear was very good for a 12 year old black car. Some swirling in the clear coat and some minor blemishes that would be nearly invisible on any colour other than black! Nothing a good detail wouldn’t resolve.
Money paid and I started the trip back down to Reading. In the best way the trip was uneventful - car ran great, not as quiet as the S6 on a cruise but the seats were excellent. Had a few chances to open it up and I was genuinely shocked at not just how quick it was but also how much like a standard golf it still felt - only the slightly heavier clutch gave it away.
Keen to see what it was actually like a friend and I took it out with the Audi. I knew it felt quick but bum dyno’s can often be fooled by the large surge of torque from a turbo. Without a doubt though the golf is far quicker than S6 when rolling - pulling a number of car lengths on it.
The car is a bit of an animal when it comes on boost - but puts its power down remarkably well considering. I don’t doubt the 365bhp figure at all and suspect it may be slightly healthier.
Plans for the car -
Replace awful black VW badges with original chrome - done!
Replace red GTI grill badge with original chrome - done!
Reinstall rear GTI badge
Replace stereo with either RNS510 or newer VW unit
Remove parrot kit
Car is going to the specialist who I use for my S6 for an inspection service, will get them to check the cam follower at the same time. They are also an APR dealer so will check exactly what map is on the car etc.
Enjoy It!
Couple of pics
Macron said:
Nice! Great pairing with the V10 too!
Out of interest is it "essentially" the same engine, or the same engine? Obvs the transmission is different being FWD only, but if this means you can tune it in the same way as the S3 that makes it very interesting!
Engine block, turbo and injectors are the same part numbers. Camshaft is different and intercooler slightly bigger on the S3 too. Out of interest is it "essentially" the same engine, or the same engine? Obvs the transmission is different being FWD only, but if this means you can tune it in the same way as the S3 that makes it very interesting!
MDMA . said:
Engine block, turbo and injectors are the same part numbers. Camshaft is different and intercooler slightly bigger on the S3 too.
This. From what I understand the rods and bearings are sturdier then the regular GTi, but the main difference is the larger turbo - a K04 instead of K03. Fortunately this one has had the S3 intercooler fitted.Essential an edition 30 GTi will remap to just over 300bhp as opposed to 250 for a regular GTi
I’d probably suggest driving a couple - tuned to the same level the S3 is undoubtedly quicker, just down to how it can actually use the power.
For me - I have a quick 4wd car and wanted something different. I just find the golf hilarious - it wants to be driven and thrown into some bends
For me - I have a quick 4wd car and wanted something different. I just find the golf hilarious - it wants to be driven and thrown into some bends
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