Things you always wanted to know the answer to [Vol. 5]
Discussion
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.
Roofless Toothless said:
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.
Ayahuasca said:
What prevents an engine running backwards?
Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
The timing would be all wrong.Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
However some engines can, and do, run in reverse.
Roofless Toothless said:
I cannot recall ever having been asked to vote for the party I think should form a government. All I have ever done is choose which candidate I think should represent my constituency in the House of Commons.
Technically true, although a little disingenuous. In a General Election the vote you cast is for the party that will form a government in addition to that, and the two are inextricably linked. V8mate said:
Roofless Toothless said:
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.

Roofless Toothless said:
V8mate said:
Roofless Toothless said:
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.

ETA: We all vote for the wrong party - because whoever we vote for we just get 'the government'

The Mad Monk said:
Ayahuasca said:
What prevents an engine running backwards?
Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
The timing would be all wrong.Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
However some engines can, and do, run in reverse.
Halmyre said:
The Mad Monk said:
Ayahuasca said:
What prevents an engine running backwards?
Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
The timing would be all wrong.Not as in reverse, I mean as in the crankshaft moving clockwise when it should go anti-clockwise or vice versa.
Is is just the way it is spun on start-up ?
Can a normal engine be run the wrong way?
However some engines can, and do, run in reverse.
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.
Somewhere in the back of my mind I've got this idea / memory that Tony Blair offered a Cabinet position to a Conservative during his first term, but they turned it down.
P-Jay said:
SpeckledJim said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
That wouldn't be possible under our party system. In the UK, the electorate chooses the party that will form a government and then the party appoints members of the party to positions of power, including Prime Minister. That's why it was so ridiculous people going on about Gordon Brown being "the unelected Prime Minister" because no PM is elected.
I don't think that's quite true. The leader of the party which has been invited by the Queen to form the government by convention would appoint him or herself Prime Minister.The Prime Minister appoints the other ministers, but I don't think there's any actual requirement for those ministers to be members of his or her party, or even members of parliament.
Happy to stand corrected.
Somewhere in the back of my mind I've got this idea / memory that Tony Blair offered a Cabinet position to a Conservative during his first term, but they turned it down.
There's no obligation to form a coalition - that's the choice of the party with the most seats compared to others. Cameron could have decided to form a minority government with just the conservatives but the risk is that you get nothing done as you don't get the votes you need on the bills you put forward so it's better bring another party into government and agree between yourselves what bits of each party's manifesto you're going to back.
V8mate said:
Why did all this stuff happen on this rock in space? Is any of it real?
I mean, what even is 'real'?
A near infinite number of independent physical actions timed to such coincidentally timed perfection as to be beyond fathomable. Attempting to make the unfathomable, fathomable has divided man since we first started to think about it.I mean, what even is 'real'?
V8mate said:
RammyMP said:
vonuber said:
Is it me or are summers getting hotter and hotter.
July wasn’t. It was crap.Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff