Young Oswald cancels meeting with F1 drivers
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Never thought I'd say it, but David Coulthard has become his own man, and has some sensible things to say, but now we learn that the young Oswald has decided that he has corrupted the core reason for Friday's meeting, by voicing some sensible views on the FIA's proposals. Young Oswald seems as though he's on the ropes and clinging to anything he can to control the surfs !
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Number 7 said:
No alledged about it - Sir Oswald founded the British Union of Fascists. Ironic that Oswald jr., who is a lawyer, spent the first couple of years of his life in a house within the confines of Holloway Prison with his mother, as a result of his parents internment during the war.
Indeed, and have any of you heard him refered to as 'Black Max'?? (reference to his old man's brigade of black shirts.......)
Sorry - more useless crap..... must think of interesting replies......
Chris
P.S - I used 'alledged' incase Mr. Moseley (Jnr) visits PH
david_s said:Indeed. Was Luke Skywalker thrown out of the Rebel Alliance when they discovered his father was Darth Vader?
Any attempt to link Max Mosley with the politics of his father is unfair, regardless of what people may think of him he is not responsible for the actions of his father. Whatever he has achieved in life has been despite his father not because of him.
david_s said:People don't blame Max Rufus for his father's politics. Rather, we blame him because he seems to be practising his father's politics. Arrogant, hypocritical, dictatorial, manipulative, bullying - does that sound like a certain political movement of the '30s, or like a certain motorsports governing body of today, or both?
Any attempt to link Max Mosley with the politics of his father is unfair, regardless of what people may think of him he is not responsible for the actions of his father. Whatever he has achieved in life has been despite his father not because of him.
flemke said:
Any attempt to link Max Mosley with the politics of his father is unfair, regardless of what people may think of him he is not responsible for the actions of his father. Whatever he has achieved in life has been despite his father not because of him.
People don't blame Max Rufus for his father's politics. Rather, we blame him because he seems to be practising his father's politics. Arrogant, hypocritical, dictatorial, manipulative, bullying - does that sound like a certain political movement of the '30s, or like a certain motorsports governing body of today, or both?
Arrogant, hypocritical, dictatorial, manipulative, bullying - sounds like every politician I have ever come across. These traits are also not uncommon in many successful businessmen and quite a few F1 bosses, it is not known as the piranha club for nothing. Just because Max has these qualities (agreed!) and may or may not be a nice person, doesn't make him a fascist. His father has been rightly condemned for his abhorrent political views, his personal traits were not abnormal for a politician. I haven't heard Max advocating the social or political policies of his father and so think any such comparison unfair and also unnecessary. You can't choose your family and I am sure that he would not have chosen his.
david_s said:David,
Arrogant, hypocritical, dictatorial, manipulative, bullying - sounds like every politician I have ever come across. These traits are also not uncommon in many successful businessmen and quite a few F1 bosses, it is not known as the piranha club for nothing. Just because Max has these qualities (agreed!) and may or may not be a nice person, doesn't make him a fascist. His father has been rightly condemned for his abhorrent political views, his personal traits were not abnormal for a politician. I haven't heard Max advocating the social or political policies of his father and so think any such comparison unfair and also unnecessary. You can't choose your family and I am sure that he would not have chosen his.
I don't think that anyone is calling Mosley the Younger a Fascist. It is, however, unfortunate that through his behaviour he does not seem to be distancing himself from the values and comportment of his parents and their pals. He rather seems to have adopted their style in a less repugnant way.
With respect to your observation that every politician that you have ever come across and many a successful businessman as well have been arrogant, hypocritical, dictatorial, manipulative and bullying, this must be hyperbole.
As in most things, it's a question of degree. To many of us Mosley Jr appears to be worse than most other people in similar positions of power.
One can be cynical about the motives of the GPWC core group, although it is interesting that none of them seem to be particularly resentful of Bernie, and he's the one who's been keeping the money that they think that they deserve. Notwithstanding the GPWC's animosity towards Mosley, when such seasoned observors as Alan Henry and Nigel Roebuck would clearly like to see the back of the man, that tells you something.
By the way, have you ever wondered where Mosley's supposed multi-million pound fortune came from? It is not clear that whatever he has achieved in life, none of it was thanks to his old man.
RobbieMeister said:Indeed. What he probably meant was that it was absolutely out of the question that he would overrule the FIA officials at Indy when they were only carrying out what he had already instructed them to do.
While we are having a go at Ozzie II I couldn't help noticing in his interview with Autosport this week him saying that it would be absolutely out of the question for him to over rule the FIA officials at Indy.
He's obviously had a change of heart since Imola!
Does anyone seriously think that they had made such a critical ruling as the one at Indy without first seeking guidance from him?
TBH, I personally don't care who his father was. The man's own words and actions speak volumes more.
He seems to be becoming increasingly alienated from the people who matter in the sport and who make it what it is - firstly the fans & majority of teams (Indy) and now the drivers (on the basis of the OP).
He should do the honourable thing and resign forthwith. However, I can't help but feel that his actions and/or inactions are only hastening the creation of the breakaway series, and thereby potentially his own demise.
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He seems to be becoming increasingly alienated from the people who matter in the sport and who make it what it is - firstly the fans & majority of teams (Indy) and now the drivers (on the basis of the OP).
He should do the honourable thing and resign forthwith. However, I can't help but feel that his actions and/or inactions are only hastening the creation of the breakaway series, and thereby potentially his own demise.
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