Tuscans best remembered at Combe!
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Graham said:Oi Mr Waldon - what about the Ginettas - 44 cars at Donington this year and although the numbers haven't really held up - 34 at Thruxton, 36 at Combe.
The only series to have Grids that big these days is the MAX5 mazda mx5's
Not bad really.
The only problem is with the success, the costs are going up, and the numbers starting to stabilise shall we say.
Reming you of any other series
Rich
That pic looks like the year two Tuscan touch in practice - wheel up back hitting spectator in the head - DEAD.
There in the afternoon - not nice - circuit changed with the two chicanes following year.
They were Mentally Fast as I remember, as I was standing well back on the banking....
There in the afternoon - not nice - circuit changed with the two chicanes following year.
They were Mentally Fast as I remember, as I was standing well back on the banking....
The circiut was not changed for that reason,it was the number of huge shunts that happend at the final corner known as CAMP which is where a Ferrari f40 was destroyed along with the jones brothers porsche's and a number of Tuscans!
And its also been recently made even slower for the Superbikes [they were touching 160mph at the braking point] they've added another chicane called BY-BROOK this is only being used at presant for bike meetings!
Hope it stays that way too!!
And its also been recently made even slower for the Superbikes [they were touching 160mph at the braking point] they've added another chicane called BY-BROOK this is only being used at presant for bike meetings!
Hope it stays that way too!!
The big Tuscan Crash / death was most likely the final straw and only way they could keep track open (reduce speeds) and keep the miserable gits in the village happy on th noise.
A full field of Mini Miglias is as good a Tuscan even in prime. Although Tusc were Awesome when had big grids they did still spread out pretty quickly once into the race. Not so with Miglias - 30+ of these firebreathing Monsters is Mega - and not NOT much slower! (Check MST).
www.mini7.co.uk/mig_or_7.html
A full field of Mini Miglias is as good a Tuscan even in prime. Although Tusc were Awesome when had big grids they did still spread out pretty quickly once into the race. Not so with Miglias - 30+ of these firebreathing Monsters is Mega - and not NOT much slower! (Check MST).
www.mini7.co.uk/mig_or_7.html
IIRC the correct line of events was the into of the chicanes then the following year the FNS of BVR's Tuscan came off towards Camp in practice, the unlucky person actually passing away due to a heart attack following the incident.
This incident presumeably precipitated in the fencing being erected @ Camp and Quarry.
The intro of the chicanes I think resulted in the TS of the closing top Tuscan drivers speed being reduced by about 3 mph, from 154 into Camp, to 151 into Quarry.
This incident presumeably precipitated in the fencing being erected @ Camp and Quarry.
The intro of the chicanes I think resulted in the TS of the closing top Tuscan drivers speed being reduced by about 3 mph, from 154 into Camp, to 151 into Quarry.
Chuggaboom said:
IIRC the correct line of events was the into of the chicanes then the following year the FNS of BVR's Tuscan came off towards Camp in practice, the unlucky person actually passing away due to a heart attack following the incident.
This incident presumeably precipitated in the fencing being erected @ Camp and Quarry.
The intro of the chicanes I think resulted in the TS of the closing top Tuscan drivers speed being reduced by about 3 mph, from 154 into Camp, to 151 into Quarry.
Think you'll find it was the other way around as the fastest point of the circuit was and still is up to avon rise just before quarry.
That was according to Bob lights print out of a lap in that georgous stealth he once owned.
micron750 said:
IIRC the correct line of events was the into of the chicanes then the following year the FNS of BVR's Tuscan came off towards Camp in practice, the unlucky person actually passing away due to a heart attack following the incident.
This incident presumeably precipitated in the fencing being erected @ Camp and Quarry.
The intro of the chicanes I think resulted in the TS of the closing top Tuscan drivers speed being reduced by about 3 mph, from 154 into Camp, to 151 into Quarry.
Think you'll find it was the other way around as the fastest point of the circuit was and still is up to avon rise just before quarry.
That was according to Bob lights print out of a lap in that georgous stealth he once owned.
Guys - the fatal accident at Combe was due to a n/s/f hub failure - the wheel sheared off and bounced over the catch fencing and tragically hit a spectator full in the chest, killing him instantly.
Since then the TC regulations stipulate that front hubs must be renewed or magnaflux cracked tested after every 6 rounds.
I have experienced the same hub failure and it is terrifying - you lose the ability to steer and as that sinks in and you hit the brakes, the pedal goes to the floor. You are then a passenger. Fortunately mine happened as I was coming onto the final straight at Brands and I managed to miss everything - coming to a halt at the top of Paddock Hill. Had it happened at Combe (or indeed anywhere else at Brands) it would have been a huge accident.
A word of warning to those of you who have ex-TC cars - you should check your hubs and periodically renew them or have them tested - particularly if you take the car on tracks.
Regards
Andy
Since then the TC regulations stipulate that front hubs must be renewed or magnaflux cracked tested after every 6 rounds.
I have experienced the same hub failure and it is terrifying - you lose the ability to steer and as that sinks in and you hit the brakes, the pedal goes to the floor. You are then a passenger. Fortunately mine happened as I was coming onto the final straight at Brands and I managed to miss everything - coming to a halt at the top of Paddock Hill. Had it happened at Combe (or indeed anywhere else at Brands) it would have been a huge accident.
A word of warning to those of you who have ex-TC cars - you should check your hubs and periodically renew them or have them tested - particularly if you take the car on tracks.
Regards
Andy
100% correct Griff2b.
I remember the day vividly, the poor fellow that died, despite the efforts of several doctors and the TVR Trauma specialist, Dr Dushy. Unbelievably he was a Tvr Factory sponsor and his wife, brave lady that she was, asked that the race be continued as he was a totally committed TVR Tuscan Fan. The TVR Factory team withdrew as it was one of their cars that the hub failed on and BVR was devastated as the car driver. The rest of us did a formation lap then formed up on the grid, turned off the engines, got out and stood alongside our cars for a 2 minutes silence. Not surprisingly the race was something of a non event, most of us were still stunned by the chances of such a freak accident happening, so so sad.
I remember the day vividly, the poor fellow that died, despite the efforts of several doctors and the TVR Trauma specialist, Dr Dushy. Unbelievably he was a Tvr Factory sponsor and his wife, brave lady that she was, asked that the race be continued as he was a totally committed TVR Tuscan Fan. The TVR Factory team withdrew as it was one of their cars that the hub failed on and BVR was devastated as the car driver. The rest of us did a formation lap then formed up on the grid, turned off the engines, got out and stood alongside our cars for a 2 minutes silence. Not surprisingly the race was something of a non event, most of us were still stunned by the chances of such a freak accident happening, so so sad.
griff2be said:
A word of warning to those of you who have ex-TC cars - you should check your hubs and periodically renew them or have them tested - particularly if you take the car on tracks.
Point taken... What needs checked and what fails? Is it the part round the bearing or is it at the mounts to the wishbones? And is the testing something that a local firm with the appropriate bits of kit can do, or is it really specialist?
Thanks
WB
The front hubs are the machined stainless steel parts which hold the wheel studs and run through the front upright, around which the bearings sit. They can shear off behind the flange which holds the wheel studs.
I'm not sure where you'd need to go to have them crak tested - but I guess a Google on magnaflux crack testing would help....
I'm not sure where you'd need to go to have them crak tested - but I guess a Google on magnaflux crack testing would help....
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