Lambo E-Gear

[maserati3200gt]

Forgive My ignorance on this Car Guys - Just a few queries ......

Is the E-gear a better experience on the Gallardo ? Or would it be more beneficial to purchase the traditional Manual ? (e.g Re-Sale values in two years ?)

Also ...... What Price is an owner expecting to pay for clutches / annual services for etc for say a 1 year old Gallardo.

In addition are these cars open to any discounts from main dealers (e.g London )?
(e.g cash)

And is it worth paying cash or Finance on the initial Purchase of such a car ?
E.g Does the pro's outway the cons of buying cash compared to finance ?

E.g Based on 2003 Gallardo.

Thanks for any info on this subject.








>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Monday 25th July 03:12

>> Edited by maserati3200gt on Monday 25th July 03:14

[mhh]

Some of your questions may be answered here.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=195482&f=63&h=0

E-gear or manual is down to preference. Don't expect to find much more than owners justifying their own decisions when you ask the question "Which is best?".

Resale will be more based on condition than gearbox, I suspect.

Good choice either way.

[360stimo]

[quote=maserati3200gt]Forgive My ignorance on this Car Guys - Just a few queries ......

Is the E-gear a better experience on the Gallardo ? Or would it be more beneficial to purchase the traditional Manual ? (e.g Re-Sale values in two years ?)

Also ...... What Price is an owner expecting to pay for clutches / annual services for etc for say a 1 year old Gallardo.

In addition are these cars open to any discounts from main dealers (e.g London )?
(e.g cash)

And is it worth paying cash or Finance on the initial Purchase of such a car ?
E.g Does the pro's outway the cons of buying cash compared to finance ?

E.g Based on 2003 Gallardo.

Thanks for any info on this subject.


Yeah, E-gear vs Manual is a personal choice. We have had the F1 vs manual 'debate' on F-chat many a time. The guy above is right. You'll get the people who have chosen the F1 or manual coming on and defending their option. Test them both and decide which one suits you the best - only option.

Lambo do track days where you can try both the e-gear and a manual on a track. I have been on two of these days and although you cant really put the car to its limits, you can deff judge which gearbox is for you. Contact Lambo Lon or Man and find out when the next track day is. Usually Millbrook or Oulten Park.

[simonspider]

I know the Finance Manager Ricky Mullins at Lamborghini London/Manch very well. He was saying the other day that 90% of Lambo's are financed. I did the same on mine for the simple reason its not sensible laying out cash on something that depreciates when you can put the cash into something that doesn't. Silly not to finance especially with interest rates the way they are.
As for clutch's average for a Gallardo is 5/6000 miles - not much difference between manual and egear.Cost around £3000. Murci is double that, but it all centres around the way you drive. There was a '54 plate Murci with 3000 miles in for a clutch the other day at Lambo Manchester at £6K. Mines done over 20K and the clutch is still fine..

[maserati3200gt]

Thanks Guys for the Advice.
Much appreciated .

[5to1]

I've got an egear and I'm prepared to admit its not perfect. Better for 90% of circumstances, but living in london you encounter the other 10% more often (traffic).

Given a better clutch position on the manual I would have probably gone for that.

[jhoneyball]

What possible excuse is there for a 5k mile life on a clutch? Thats just shite engineering.

I got 50k miles on my Aston V8 Vantage clutch, and the surface place still had the machining marks visible, there was so little wear. And thats 450bhp and 2 tonnes weight, and lots of london driving too.

[Badapple]

jhoneyball said:

What possible excuse is there for a 5k mile life on a clutch? Thats just shite engineering.

I saw one advertised 1950mls with a new clutch???

[rico]

The click-clack sound would personally sway me to get the manual.

[dazren]

jhoneyball said:

What possible excuse is there for a 5k mile life on a clutch? Thats just shite engineering.

I'd be fascinated to hear a factory response to this point. Although with Simon's car doing 20k+ miles and still going on the original clutch, you have to wonder if it's the drivers?

Someone recently told me of a Surrey based Gallardo owner on his third clutch with only 7k miles on the clock.

DAZ

>> Edited by dazren on Friday 29th July 15:33

[rico]

dazren said:

I'd be fascinated to hear a factory response to this point. Although with Simon's car doing 20k+ miles and still going on the original clutch, you have to wonder if it's the drivers?

Don't forget that Simon's got a manual. James has got a lot of miles out of his current clutch (manual Gallardo) (12k+ but not sure).

The G had a few teething problems and it seems the early E-gears have suffered more than the manuals. There have been a few threads on Lambo-Power which suggest similar on a worldwide basis, but I know of at least one owner on there with an early E-Gear with no major problems.



Edit - just seen Simon's earlier post about similar mileages for E-Gear vs Manual...

It would be interesting to know the average for each varient, not just a general 'Gallardo' stat.



>> Edited by rico on Friday 29th July 17:20

[rico]

Some other threads for reading. This is a worldwide site with a lot of American and Australian owners as well as Brits.

www.lambo-power.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8117
www.lambo-power.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8046
www.lambo-power.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7852

I hope this doesn't put anyone off what is a mindblowingly fun car

[murph7355]

simonspider said:

... for the simple reason its not sensible laying out cash on something that depreciates when you can put the cash into something that doesn't. ...

I'm piss poor with finances, but I've never seen the logic in this...

Even when you finance a car, you're still putting cash into it. Only in addition you're putting in extra cash to cover the cost of the finance. ?

And worse with finance, if your car depreciates really heavily, you're standing the risk of negative equity.

Unless you are able to put your wedge of cash into something that will give a guaranteed better return than you pay for the finance (and if it were like that, why wouldn't the car financers invest in that instead?).

Of course having ready access to cash can often be helpful for a rainy day, especially with cars like these. But if things are getting that close to the bone, you probably ought to think twice about buying one in the first place?

[simonspider]

Fact is you are a long time dead.
And when I have a few sleepless nights over owning a Murci and a 360 (well half of a 360 - bought it with a mate) then thats a small price to pay for the enjoyment they bring..

[che6mw]

murph7355 said:

Unless you are able to put your wedge of cash into something that will give a guaranteed better return than you pay for the finance (and if it were like that, why wouldn't the car financers invest in that instead?).

It is often possible to obtain finance on a car at or around the 4% mark if you try hard enough. Even the most basic of savings accounts offer 5%, with some offering around 6% and stocks and shares offering the potential for double that. So in this situation you are clearly better off keeping your cash. The other advantage being compound interest - you'll save considerably more money long term if you keep building up your savings.

Alternatively buy a property with your money and use the rental income to cover finance costs. In this way someone else is financing your car for you.

[5to1]

Generally you pay more to a bank for borrowing money, then they do for borrowing yours. Otherwise you could simply borrow money and stick it in an account, earning the difference as profit. Wouldn't be many banks around if this were the case.

Also I don't know many properties you could buy for the cost of a Lambo, that would yield anywhere near the finance/rental cost.

As an individual (not a company) there's only one real financial incentive to borrow. That is limiting your exposure, as depending on your package you can either return the car (guaranteed value), or default (although is it worth getting blacklisted for a car?).

[murph7355]

I'm glad I'm not the only one 5to1

I have no doubt that as a company, it may work - VAT rebates on all work done to it, depreciating company asset etc.

But as a personal thing, I just don't see it.

Though I fully agree on "what price fun"