RE: Longhaul, Jogger-class | PH Footnote

RE: Longhaul, Jogger-class | PH Footnote

Sunday 1st May 2022

Longhaul, Jogger-class | PH Footnote

Snapper Harry needed a car to get him to Scotland to shoot a Stratos. Dacia to the rescue



If you are anything like me you love your car. Like really love it. It's virtually a prerequisite for visiting this website. My car is a huge part of my life, and I am immensely proud of it. This despite everyone calling it the 'Crappat', and the fact that for a good while it had a mouse living in it. Because while it might very well 'only' be a 2009 VW Passat (with the famously fault-free 2.0-litre FSI motor) it is as faithful and vital to my existence as the family hound. I could not easily survive without it.

However, despite lavishing it with the sort of affection normally reserved for something with dark brown eyes and a shiny coat, there were omens last week that it might not be the ideal thing to get me all the way to Scotland for our latest Readers' Car shoot. Very minor things, like the driver's door not opening on command and it making strange disharmonious noises. Or occasionally none at all. No matter, though, because the PH brain trust had something else in mind for the 535-mile, nine-hour journey. Smash cut to the new Dacia Jogger.

Now, for anyone not familiar with Jogger, it is Dacia's latest attempt to gatecrash another market segment - specifically the one that allows you to seat seven people in a single car. This is genius. Because while crossovers may have usurped the MPVs that European carmakers used to turn out like cheap toffee, they tend to be about as affordable as diamond engagement rings. (Which is the whole point of them, from the manufacturer's perspective.) Dacia, bless it, has a more old-fashioned business model. It is quite happy to sit at the bottom of the aspiration ladder, and hoover up anyone who has put value-for-money at the top of their most-wanted list.



With seven people to seat, this, frankly, seems like a good way to go. Because unless you're in the six-figure market for a premium-badge SUV flagship (in which case I'll lay odds you didn't click on a Dacia feature), you're going to be spending used Porsche Cayman-money on a Kia or Hyundai. Which makes the £15,345 starting price of the Jogger seem more than a little competitive. Even the range-topping Extreme SE that turned up on my doorstep, with gloss-black alloys and heated front seats, is only £17,745. The cheapest Kia Sorento is £40k.

Now, if like me - i.e. you're an adherent to the concept of cost-effective motoring - this is going to make you cut the Jogger a whole heap of slack. Because every subjective criticism you might choose to level at the car (some of them entering your brain through your eyeballs) is going to be subverted by the idea that you possess it for the trifling (representative) sum of £233 per month. Which isn't very much at all for a brand-new car which is entirely decent at the job it is built to do.



I know this because the moment it turned up, I whipped out the second row of seats (painlessly, speedily) and replaced them with many, many boxes of photographic equipment - only to discover that the volume of kit, which normally brims the Crappat, was swallowed with room to spare. The PH brain trust tells me this is because the Jogger is built on the CMF-B platform, which, thanks to its underlying modularity, has permitted Dacia the chance to arm it with an elongated rear end. This means you get up to 2,085 litres of boot space when you're not carrying any passengers. Or mice.

What you also get - and I really can't stress this enough - is a nice place to sit. Sure, the seats are a bit rugged (especially if you sit in them for nine hours) and obviously the Jogger isn't trimmed like a Maybach; but it has everything you could reasonably need - a usable touchscreen with sat nav, automatic climate control, smartphone connectivity - and nothing you don't. Moreover it has physical switchgear to manage the cabin temperature - which means you're going to like it more than a new VW Golf from the first minute.



Now, granted, moments later you'll discover it doesn't drive with the mature finesse of a Mk8 Golf - but were you expecting it to? No - because you know for a fact that it is nearly £10k cheaper than the cheapest Mk8 wagon. So, again, with modest expectations pre-loaded, the Jogger makes a decent fist of turning on the charm. Certainly it doesn't make the mistake of trying too hard: the seven-seater is plainly tuned to be driven modestly, with more than one person aboard. The limit of grip is easily reachable, but of course Dacia won't expect anyone to go looking for it. What they will be looking for is a moderately comfortable, easy-to-steer, livably quiet car. And that's what has been delivered.

It helps that the 1.0-litre three-cylinder engine is up to snuff. Plainly it has been developed with drivability in mind, which is the reason you get a let's-get-going slug of torque in the mid-range. Chasing a spectacular LB Specialist Lancia Stratos on Scottish B roads is a good way of discovering that there's not much to be gained from revving the petrol motor out, but if you're only interesting in arriving at the national speed limit for umpteen hours, then 148 lb ft of twist is more than enough to be getting on with.

It is quite possible that the job of driving all the way from the south-east to faraway Scotland is the perfect testing backdrop for the Jogger. Would I have enjoyed the M25 or M40 or M6 more in a Lamborghini Huracan? Probably not. And there would be no room for my big tripod or the drone I crashed. A Kia Sorento might've been quieter and quicker and comfier - but potentially not by a degree that would make paying its premium compelling. Was it better than it would have been in the Crappat? Probably yes, if only because there was no fear of a catastrophic breakdown, and the Jogger's dinky engine undoubtedly consumed less fuel. Which is rather at the core of Dacia's appeal: because for anyone else getting by with a 12-year-old car - and the uncertainties that come with it - the prospect of paying a very modest amount every month to get a large family-life box comprehensively ticked makes all sorts of sense. In that respect, the Jogger is precisely as loveable as it needs to be.















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Discussion

Cpt Flashhard

Original Poster:

115 posts

135 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I quite like this, but full disclosure I recently sold my GLC350d at a profit after two years of ownership and some eye-watering servicing costs (even from my local indy), so am now running around in a £900 citroen c3 that costs me buttons to insure (143 fully comp), buttons to run, and will probably achieve the same when I come to sell it (also, whisper it but it's hilarious to drive in an analogue kind of way). Maybe it's an age thing of seeing the DD as white goods? Tried an original duster way back when but the lack of refinement was offputting, so I'd hope they have sorted that out now

thpfft

5 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Loved this. Thank you. More useful funny car stories please.

rix

2,788 posts

191 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I had attempted, rather unsprisingly - unsuccessfully, to persuade my other half that she should chop in her 2021 F Pace, probably at a small profit, and get one of these as the everyday everything car. I just love the no thrills but perfectly adequate standing that Dacia have positioned for themselves. I actually think these.look pretty good too!

Dan_1981

17,408 posts

200 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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That has a 1.0 litre engine in it?!


What a time to be alive!

HTP99

22,605 posts

141 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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My colleague has gone up to Scotland in one of these with 6 other adults and a roof box, it'll be interesting to hear how he got on when he's back in work on Thursday.

Earthdweller

13,607 posts

127 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I’m coming to the view that choice of my next car will be based solely on whether it actually has physical dials and buttons

I just don’t want to access a computer screen submenus just to turn the heat up

laugh

Maybe Dacia is the future!

FPC

79 posts

52 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Actually going to have a look at one of these soon. Interested in the cheapest variant with no heated seats or sat nav, steel wheels and Beko fridge freezer white paint. Manual air con too - perfect. Hope it's not bloody keyless either.

To me there's a lot to be said for simplicity and functionality and I love this car's purity - it does what it's designed to do and does pretend to be anything else. I see my neighbour's over-complicated F-Pace has had to be loaded on to the back of a recovery truck again. £650 per month for an unreliable dog wagon, no thanks.

We need a new family wagon and prices of used Superb TDi's etc (well, all used cars I guess) are shockingly high at the moment.

This could be perfect...

The Rotrex Kid

30,353 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Nice write up. I’ve covered a few hundred miles in our Jogger (same spec and colour) and whilst it’s not perfect, it really, really nails on the VFM that the Dacia brand has.

ChrisCh86

857 posts

45 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I can't help but feel that this car needs a 1.5L diesel engine, surely the 1.0 petrol is going to struggle with the car fully loaded with people?

I imagine the difference between driving this car unloaded and then loaded must be huge.

Having said that I applaud the rest of the package - not everyone wants an expensive crossover / SUV!

Pebbles167

3,462 posts

153 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I like the look of these, and great value for money too. Was seriously considering buying one as we have a Dacia dealer local.

Showed it to the family who have been complaining that we need a new car with android auto and a media screen (we've never owned a new car) as a possible replacement for our slightly tired 2008 Qashqai as there will be 5 of us soon, and all they did is say its rubbish, and "can't we have a new Qashqai?" even though they are twice the price.

Ah well, they can complain all they want when we're crammed in a 5 seater, they had their chance hehe

MrGTI6

3,163 posts

131 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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I actually think that's a really good-looking car!

Looking at the photos, it doesn't appear to be particularly basic either. It's got a six-speed 'box, electric windows all round, heated front seats, sat-nav, Bluetooth connectivity, air-con, alloys...

Twinair

667 posts

143 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Throughout my motoring life I have had experience either of ownership or use of - 100’s of cars - and every one, even a beige brown Austin allegro was found to be ‘fun’ - you just had to figure out how. So when I look at what I am paying for my cars these days - and the deposit I just spooled out for my M car, in all honesty there could be no criticism you could level at this Dacia. It’s ridiculous really - I could have had this ‘whole’ Dacia - for NO monthly payments - just with the depo for the M. Sure - it would not be the same - of course, but come on! Reminds me of Hawker Chan in China town Singapore, 1 Michelin star dish for like $7 Sing, someone I went with said ‘yeah but the cutlery was plastic’… dear god - a Michelin star dish for £4GBP and still a complaint?! I hope these Dacias sell like hot cakes - good for them!!

Familymad

683 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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We have been running the cheapest PCH white goods DD for last 8 years. Last two have been Skoda Octavia estates. First one was perfect and £149 pcm on a 3x23 deal for 10k pa. The 2021 Octavia is £157 pcm on same terms. It’s been a heap with nav and tech failing, useless interface with heating controls and shocking oil consumption. I won’t get another even if it’s the cheapest lease.

We’ve got a jogger on the radar and I’m a steel wheel fan…

valiant

10,310 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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That is a lot of car for £17k.

If all you want is sensible, no frills motoring with a long warranty to boot then you can’t beat Dacia at the moment.

croyde

22,986 posts

231 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Dan_1981 said:
That has a 1.0 litre engine in it?!


What a time to be alive!
My Dacia Duster, bought new Feb 2021 for £10500 and now apparently worth £11500, has the same engine.

I came from a V8 5L and a 6 2.5L and thought I'd hate it.

Could not have been more wrong and it was brilliant on a drive from London to Skye.

To be honest it was only once north of Glasgow when I was finally on roads that could be enjoyed with something with more power.

I'm sitting in it now and it still hits me that I can only lose £10.5 grand tops.

I lost twice that on a Landover in 3 years.

shih tzu faced

2,597 posts

50 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Love it, well done Dacia. Keep doing what you’re doing.

Good write up too.

The Rotrex Kid

30,353 posts

161 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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croyde said:
Dan_1981 said:
That has a 1.0 litre engine in it?!


What a time to be alive!
My Dacia Duster, bought new Feb 2021 for £10500 and now apparently worth £11500, has the same engine.

I came from a V8 5L and a 6 2.5L and thought I'd hate it.

Could not have been more wrong and it was brilliant on a drive from London to Skye.

To be honest it was only once north of Glasgow when I was finally on roads that could be enjoyed with something with more power.

I'm sitting in it now and it still hits me that I can only lose £10.5 grand tops.

I lost twice that on a Landover in 3 years.
And the Duster only has 90bhp (100bhp when running on LPG if you have bi fuel) and the Jogger has 110bhp! AND the Jogger has 30nm more torque too!

David87

6,666 posts

213 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Really see the appeal of this - what a fantastic thing! As soon as there’s an EV one (I’d happily pay more) I’ll buy one as a school run / unpleasant task wagon. Tempted even with it as it is, to be honest!

Baldchap

7,697 posts

93 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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We collect a Dacia Sandero Stepway in Spain this month. It was that, complete with five years warranty and servicing, plus a year's insurance, or a used, highish mileage Focus. Got the 'top spec' Extreme or whatever it is.

Never even seen one in the flesh, but still an absolute no-brainer.

CedricN

820 posts

146 months

Sunday 1st May 2022
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Is it the only MPV out there? Pretty much everyone stopped producing them, which is sad because if you have a family and/or hobbies that takes alot of space they are great. And it seems to have a more luxurious interior than any tesla or modern VW, not bad at all. For big familiers with small economy it really must be very welcome.