London ULEZ expansion is going ahead
Discussion
Our wonderful Mayor has confirmed the expansion to cover the majority of London will go ahead August 2023.
Get your wallets out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63754...
Get your wallets out
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63754...
snuffy said:
s1962a said:
He got voted in with this mandate didn't he? Democracy and all that.
Indeed. He does what he says he's going to do.If people don't like it, then stop voting for him.
There was a public consultation sham. The thing is it is the poor and those on low incomes that will suffer the most, people who likely voted him in.
megaphone said:
snuffy said:
s1962a said:
He got voted in with this mandate didn't he? Democracy and all that.
Indeed. He does what he says he's going to do.If people don't like it, then stop voting for him.
There was a public consultation sham. The thing is it is the poor and those on low incomes that will suffer the most, people who likely voted him in.
I dont get a vote who is Major because I live outside London, however this effects my place of work.
Those who responded to the public consultation and opposed the expansion were dismissed by the Major as some sort of organized group whose opinions did not count.
And yes I run a perfectly good high mileage euro 5 diesel (owned for 6 years) that will now have to be replaced and no doubt be worth buttons now.
Those who responded to the public consultation and opposed the expansion were dismissed by the Major as some sort of organized group whose opinions did not count.
And yes I run a perfectly good high mileage euro 5 diesel (owned for 6 years) that will now have to be replaced and no doubt be worth buttons now.
t BBC map, it manages to not show any of the major roads that that pass through and will now be in the zone.Looks like I will be putting my 1992 BMW up for sale early next year. Im in Greater London, zone 6 and never drive into central London.
The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
Tankrizzo said:
So the farms and rural areas etc out by Biggin Hill...all those sorts of places now have to comply with a ULEZ?
If you have a specific address you can check it herehttps://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
Koyaanisqatsi said:
megaphone said:
snuffy said:
s1962a said:
He got voted in with this mandate didn't he? Democracy and all that.
Indeed. He does what he says he's going to do.If people don't like it, then stop voting for him.
There was a public consultation sham. The thing is it is the poor and those on low incomes that will suffer the most, people who likely voted him in.
There will be lots of examples like this.
Cotty said:
Looks like I will be putting my 1992 BMW up for sale early next year. Im in Greater London, zone 6 and never drive into central London.
The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it. The problem is people just outside of the new zone are not going to drive into the zone to use the shops etc that are in the zone.
At the end of the day its just a cash grab, it has nothing to do with air quality. If it was then he could just prevent the so called polluting cars entering the current zone. Paying £12.50 does not make the car pollute less.
s1962a said:
If you have a specific address you can check it here
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
Cheers. Yes they do. We have elderly relatives living near Cudham, really you'd class it as rural and out in the sticks. They are going to have to pay a daily ULEZ charge now unless they upgrade their car, which given they are OAPs isn't going to be easy. Public transport not amazing round there either.https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emissio...
JagLover said:
Koyaanisqatsi said:
And seeing as a fair proportion of 'the poor and those on low incomes' will not drive (living in a capital city with a good public transport system), they won't care about his LEZ/ULEZ plans.
Outer London often doesn't have the transport links of central London. megaphone said:
Yes lots of owners with 'classic' cars and toys will be caught, my mate has a 2002 XJR, he will have to sell or pay the fee for the twice a month he uses it.
Is it a petrol? I checked and looks like a 2001 XJR is ulez exempt, so your mate won't have to pay it. Lucky sod!Cotty said:
Bexley, Bromley, Croydon, Kingston upon Thames and Sutton don't even have Tube stations.
You can add far larger areas of South London to that. In most of it all you have is train stations and buses. The bus routes are better than in many other areas of the country but it still isn't brilliant to rely on. Plenty of people in the outer boroughs as well who bought their cars a long time ago and can't necessarily afford to replace them. My parents are inside the south circular so this doesn't affect me, just saying in general.
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