Company car list just gone 100% electric

Company car list just gone 100% electric

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plfrench

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2,411 posts

269 months

Monday 26th February
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Has anyone else had this yet?

Just found out today that our company car list is now 100% electric. I guess the writing was one the wall as pure ICE was removed from the list about 4 or 5 years ago.

I don't yet know if they're extending this to the opt out policy too.

James6112

4,477 posts

29 months

Monday 26th February
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Mine has been for a couple of years

andburg

7,352 posts

170 months

Monday 26th February
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Still mixed at mine but very few mild/hybrid almost all phev and electric.

Several colleagues live in terraced houses with no charging facility available . They’re already worrying that in 12 months or so they may find themselves with a car they cant refuel locally.

Edited by andburg on Monday 26th February 19:46

Th3 D0n

59 posts

66 months

Tuesday 27th February
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One of our lads lives in a flat and chose an EV. Got a Mercedes, bling innit, and moans like fk as he has to sit for an hour each morning charging it as the charge speed is pants.
Seems to be much longer wait times for hybrids than EV’s going on our fleet provider

autumnsum

396 posts

32 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Th3 D0n said:
One of our lads lives in a flat and chose an EV. Got a Mercedes, bling innit, and moans like fk as he has to sit for an hour each morning charging it as the charge speed is pants.
Seems to be much longer wait times for hybrids than EV’s going on our fleet provider
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.

TheDeuce

22,022 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th February
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autumnsum said:
Th3 D0n said:
One of our lads lives in a flat and chose an EV. Got a Mercedes, bling innit, and moans like fk as he has to sit for an hour each morning charging it as the charge speed is pants.
Seems to be much longer wait times for hybrids than EV’s going on our fleet provider
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Makes sense to me. His job requires him to drive 75,000 miles a year and pays so well that he's stuck in a flat.

scratchchin


JustGetATesla

303 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th February
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The answer to "why has a company car list gone EV only" is "have you seen how much tax the company and the employee pay if it isn't"

Th3 D0n

59 posts

66 months

Tuesday 27th February
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autumnsum said:
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300

Th3 D0n

59 posts

66 months

Tuesday 27th February
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TheDeuce said:
Makes sense to me. His job requires him to drive 75,000 miles a year and pays so well that he's stuck in a flat.

scratchchin
No time to enjoy a nice house with a drive if he’s working 50 weeks a year

TheDeuce

22,022 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Th3 D0n said:
TheDeuce said:
Makes sense to me. His job requires him to drive 75,000 miles a year and pays so well that he's stuck in a flat.

scratchchin
No time to enjoy a nice house with a drive if he’s working 50 weeks a year
Just time to sit outside the flat for an hour a day doing a crossword...

Still, it's only 250 hours a year, it does make sense, given such a modest sacrifice, that he's totally unable to work out a faster way of getting it charged.

Tractor Driver

107 posts

31 months

Tuesday 27th February
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My employer has just launched a new salary sacrifice scheme with EVs and PHEVs only. Provider is Tusker and I think the PHEVs are there for anybody who can’t accommodate a home charger. They’re likely to get terrible MPG though and the HMRC AFR for business mileage likely won’t cover the full cost per mile.

Previous scheme was a traditional company car scheme with good old petrol and diesel options, together with PHEVs and a smattering of EVs.

Haven’t seen the actual pricing yet, as I can’t log in. The example they provided on a recent webinar was how cheap a Nissan Leaf was, conveniently ignoring the fact that its limited range would likely make it unsuitable for most!

TheDeuce

22,022 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Tractor Driver said:
My employer has just launched a new salary sacrifice scheme with EVs and PHEVs only. Provider is Tusker and I think the PHEVs are there for anybody who can’t accommodate a home charger. They’re likely to get terrible MPG though and the HMRC AFR for business mileage likely won’t cover the full cost per mile.

Previous scheme was a traditional company car scheme with good old petrol and diesel options, together with PHEVs and a smattering of EVs.

Haven’t seen the actual pricing yet, as I can’t log in. The example they provided on a recent webinar was how cheap a Nissan Leaf was, conveniently ignoring the fact that its limited range would likely make it unsuitable for most!
Just don't choose the Leaf then!

The reality is that most employees are highly likely to end up with a nicer, more expensive car than previously, but also pay far less tax on it so it will cost them less as a perk. Providing they drive less than 250 miles a day, they're not going to struggle to find a suitable car via Tusker and they'll save time as well as expense by avoiding petrol stations.

It's good that they're maintaining some PHEV's though, there should be something for those that currently can't charge at home.

Overall, you might well find that 'good new EV's' are a positive.


Dark85

665 posts

149 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Th3 D0n said:
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300
But even 150 miles a day is pretty mega mileage, if that's his chosen commute then I'd say that's really the the problem - or the story is exaggerated.

Regardless, I do think if employers are going to have 100% EV company cars they should be incentivised to provide facilities so staff can charge at work.

JQ

5,765 posts

180 months

Tuesday 27th February
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JustGetATesla said:
The answer to "why has a company car list gone EV only" is "have you seen how much tax the company and the employee pay if it isn't"
100% this.

As of 12 months ago 90% of all Partners in my firm took the cash alternative as the BIK on a suitable premium ICE car was horrific. After changing to an EV company car list, 90% have now jumped back into the car scheme, myself included. After 15 years of running my own cars I've now got a brand new £60,000 car on the drive costing me £280pcm net, for car, insurance and maintenance. Plus I'm saving around £150pcm in fuel costs. It's an absolute no brainer.

Admittedly, there's absolutely no way I would run one without access to home charging, but for those of us who can it makes total sense.

Th3 D0n

59 posts

66 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Dark85 said:
But even 150 miles a day is pretty mega mileage, if that's his chosen commute then I'd say that's really the the problem - or the story is exaggerated.

Regardless, I do think if employers are going to have 100% EV company cars they should be incentivised to provide facilities so staff can charge at work.
Some days more (can be double that), some days less as home based.
I didn’t cover myself in glory with the original post when the point was mainly he chose this option. Can’t for the life of me work out why, a Tesla would have been a far better choice given the circumstances or, better still, a PHEV.
100% agree with your second paragraph. We could add a home charger to the BiK if we so wished but I paid for one myself, the mileage reimbursement should cover the cost in 18-24 months

Terminator X

15,177 posts

205 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Th3 D0n said:
autumnsum said:
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300
Man tells true story, EV crowd hound him with pitchforks rofl

TX.

TheDeuce

22,022 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Terminator X said:
Th3 D0n said:
autumnsum said:
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300
Man tells true story, EV crowd hound him with pitchforks rofl

TX.
Except it was rightly called into question and the story has since been revised to not needing to charge every morning, some days work from home, some days not much mileage...

The initial statement, possibly unintentionally, was it appears, somewhat wide of the mark.

Th3 D0n

59 posts

66 months

Tuesday 27th February
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TheDeuce said:
Terminator X said:
Th3 D0n said:
autumnsum said:
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300
Man tells true story, EV crowd hound him with pitchforks rofl

TX.
Except it was rightly called into question and the story has since been revised to not needing to charge every morning, some days work from home, some days not much mileage...

The initial statement, possibly unintentionally, was it appears, somewhat wide of the mark.
As previously said, it wasn’t the best worded post, apologies for the confusion and for making you getting the hump with me.
Not that any of this matters, I’m off to the pub in a bit, enjoy your evening too

TheDeuce

22,022 posts

67 months

Tuesday 27th February
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Th3 D0n said:
TheDeuce said:
Terminator X said:
Th3 D0n said:
autumnsum said:
You need to make up more of this story, as it sounds like he needs to drive 300 miles a day for it to make sense.
Nothing made up, slight exaggeration on the hour per day charging perhaps, has to charge it each work morning.
It’s an EQB so 200 miles on a charge is pretty much pie in the sky, let alone 300
Man tells true story, EV crowd hound him with pitchforks rofl

TX.
Except it was rightly called into question and the story has since been revised to not needing to charge every morning, some days work from home, some days not much mileage...

The initial statement, possibly unintentionally, was it appears, somewhat wide of the mark.
As previously said, it wasn’t the best worded post, apologies for the confusion and for making you getting the hump with me.
Not that any of this matters, I’m off to the pub in a bit, enjoy your evening too
I don't have the hump, just pointing out to TX. that there is a difference between hounding with pitchforks vs clarifying a detail that didn't sound right as originally worded.

No stress beer

RayDonovan

4,448 posts

216 months

Tuesday 27th February
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We're probably one of the only private companies in the UK where you can still order a diesel on the company car list.

No hybrids, no EVs.

Strange enough is the fact that we're one of the most ethical and green companies in the World (accredited with that fact) for raw material sourcing and production techniques.

Strange old World, we only make €3bn net profit in 22/23..