Islabikes gone bust-Lightweight bike for child?

Islabikes gone bust-Lightweight bike for child?

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octane83

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87 posts

149 months

Sunday 14th April
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Hi all,
A few years ago I recommended Islabikes to friend whose child is very small for her age. He ended up going for it (a model without pedals, sorry not sure of the name, but the type where the child propels themselves with their feet). He was very happy with the purchase and has only recently started looking for bigger bike (daughter is now nearing 7 years of age, but still diminutive).

However, he also tells me Islabikes has gone bust?!? Looking at the website that does seem to be the case, sadly.

Seeing as I learned of Islabikes from this helpful forum, I'd like your views on any equivalent to Islabikes. He is especially concerned about the weight, apparently he's checked out he usual suspects (Halfords etc) and most bikes seem monstrously heavy.

Any recommendations gratefully received, thanks!

JQ

5,746 posts

180 months

Sunday 14th April
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We started on Islabikes when my kids were little and moved to Frog. No idea of they’re still going but my kids loved them and they were light in comparison to other offerings.

jonathan_roberts

291 posts

9 months

Sunday 14th April
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Woom are great. Expensive but you tend to get most of your money back when you sell them again so actual cost of ownership is low. Eg bought Woom 3 new for €340 and sold it for €300 after 2 years. Woom 4 bought for €470 and sold it for €420 also after two years. It helps that they periodically raise prices of new bikes so the old bikes hold their value.

Just got my youngest daughter a Woom 4 OFF. She’s 5. It weighs 11kg and is therefore substantially lighter than most if not all other mountain bikes with 20in wheel. She likes the flow trails at the local bike park.

There are always offers around too. That bike is supposed to be €850 and I paid €575.

After the Woom 4 size if I’m honest the value for money goes down in comparison to other bikes and as the kids are bigger weight is less of an issue. My eldest had a Woom 4 and then a Woom 5 which I didn’t really rate (cheap components and just not generally very robust), but she liked. Now she has a Woom 6 NOW which I bought from Woom less than half price at €479.

The weight and geometry is the main advantage of a Woom and I personally think that makes the experience of riding with the kids more enjoyable as they actually like riding the bikes.


troc

3,765 posts

176 months

Sunday 14th April
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Frog or woom would be good choices. They both have the same philosophy as islabikes.

There are usually plenty secondhand too but often not cheap.

However the quality of kids bikes from trek, specialised, cube etc has much improved.

Simon_GH

234 posts

81 months

Sunday 14th April
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If you like Isla Bikes then look for a second hand one close enough to inspect in person. I would imagine there’s a fair few out there barely touched. They hold their price but there’s a good reason for that and you’ll get most of your money back when you sell. We’ve got a couple of Isla Bikes and I can’t fault them,

Bonefish Blues

26,773 posts

224 months

Sunday 14th April
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Simon_GH said:
If you like Isla Bikes then look for a second hand one close enough to inspect in person. I would imagine there’s a fair few out there barely touched. They hold their price but there’s a good reason for that and you’ll get most of your money back when you sell. We’ve got a couple of Isla Bikes and I can’t fault them,
This. They are uniquely depreciation-proof IME.

osterbo

212 posts

121 months

Sunday 14th April
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There's a fairly active facebook group for pre-owned islabikes:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/826309394088435/

octane83

Original Poster:

87 posts

149 months

Sunday 14th April
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osterbo said:
There's a fairly active facebook group for pre-owned islabikes:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/826309394088435/
Thanks, I've passed on the link.

_Hoppers

1,216 posts

66 months

Monday 15th April
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Islabikes haven't gone bust, they've just stopped production. They are still honoring warranties and selling parts, whilst in stock.

As above, Woom, Frog or second hand Islabike.

Tickle

4,922 posts

205 months

Monday 15th April
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We've had Frog in the past, Hoy Bonaly have been the best so far though, very light.

I will go Hoy again for my daughter's upgrade, really impressed.

RECr

438 posts

52 months

Monday 15th April
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Forme are good, and cheaper than Islabikes/Frog. They are no longer producing new bikes but I believe The Bike Club bought up their old stock, and often have them for sale on ebay.

boyse7en

6,733 posts

166 months

Monday 15th April
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Bonefish Blues said:
Simon_GH said:
If you like Isla Bikes then look for a second hand one close enough to inspect in person. I would imagine there’s a fair few out there barely touched. They hold their price but there’s a good reason for that and you’ll get most of your money back when you sell. We’ve got a couple of Isla Bikes and I can’t fault them,
This. They are uniquely depreciation-proof IME.
My kids went through three isla bikes as they grew, and i actually made an overall profit when selling them on when they grew out of them.

CheesecakeRunner

3,809 posts

92 months

Monday 15th April
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My kids moved onto Trek Wahoos when I decided Islabikes were taking the pee on price. We also had a Hoy Bonaly that was good.

snobetter

1,162 posts

147 months

Tuesday 16th April
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I have a Frog 55 spotty going in S. Devon after moved youngest to a Frog 62...

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

135 months

Tuesday 16th April
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snobetter said:
I have a Frog 55 spotty going in S. Devon after moved youngest to a Frog 62...
I'm after a 55 as my daughter has outgrown her 48. Shame I'm in kent!

The nice thing with these "premium" kids bikes is that once you've bought one (and are happy with 2nd hand) you can pretty much get free upgrades as they grow as they hold their value so well.

zedx19

2,750 posts

141 months

Tuesday 16th April
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Frog bikes are great, had a few and sold them on for not much less than we paid. I've recently repurposed a Wiggins which we had for years, been through 3 of our boys and still going strong, being light and easy to ride. Rather than selling it for not much, I stripped it down and painted it pink for our 4 year old girl, who has been hammering about on it, still with no problems. Wiggins another brand you can't get anymore.

paulrockliffe

15,714 posts

228 months

Tuesday 16th April
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You get what you pay for, broadly, so long as you shop at proper bike shops that aren't Halfords.

The best deals tend to be over winter, but less so on kids bikes as often a container arrives from Taiwan in the spring and that's the stock for the whole year, once it's gone it's gone, and often it is.

All these companies that trade on the idea that they make only kids bikes so they're making better bikes for kids, lack the scale of the larger bike companies so are inherently more expensive, they have a load of frames made up in Taiwan and then buy off the shelf parts for them. If you compare similar weight and components, they're more expensive than Trek, Giant, Specialised etc, without offering anything extra.

When I've bought bikes for the kids I've looked at all the options and bought from Cube, Vitus, Giant, Orbea and I think Specialised will be next.

Bonefish Blues

26,773 posts

224 months

Tuesday 16th April
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zedx19 said:
Frog bikes are great, had a few and sold them on for not much less than we paid. I've recently repurposed a Wiggins which we had for years, been through 3 of our boys and still going strong, being light and easy to ride. Rather than selling it for not much, I stripped it down and painted it pink for our 4 year old girl, who has been hammering about on it, still with no problems. Wiggins another brand you can't get anymore.
No, but I bet you can get the bikes under different branding.

boyse7en

6,733 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th April
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paulrockliffe said:
You get what you pay for, broadly, so long as you shop at proper bike shops that aren't Halfords.

The best deals tend to be over winter, but less so on kids bikes as often a container arrives from Taiwan in the spring and that's the stock for the whole year, once it's gone it's gone, and often it is.

All these companies that trade on the idea that they make only kids bikes so they're making better bikes for kids, lack the scale of the larger bike companies so are inherently more expensive, they have a load of frames made up in Taiwan and then buy off the shelf parts for them. If you compare similar weight and components, they're more expensive than Trek, Giant, Specialised etc, without offering anything extra.

When I've bought bikes for the kids I've looked at all the options and bought from Cube, Vitus, Giant, Orbea and I think Specialised will be next.
To be fair, all the big brands kit their bikes out with "off the shelf" parts too. Drivetrain is going to be Shimano or SRAM, brakes will be Tektro etc.
An Islabike will hold its value far far better than a Specialized or Trek too, making the overall ownership experience cheaper

Mine have moved into teenager territory now, so are riding an Orange and a Specialized, bought because they were cheap secondhand. I don't expect to see much money back when i come to sell them.

aspender

1,306 posts

266 months

Wednesday 17th April
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+1 for Woom. My daughter has been through a Woom Original 2, 3 and 4 and we've just bought her a Woom Off 5. They are lightweight, well designed and bulletproof. It helps also that the main UK retail seller is near us in Berkhampstead.