RE: Finally - a BMW i8 Roadster worth talking about

RE: Finally - a BMW i8 Roadster worth talking about

Wednesday 17th April

Finally - a BMW i8 Roadster worth talking about

The i8 is an infamous secondhand bargain. But what if it becomes famous again just for being good?


The last time we spotted a BMW i8 Roadster, it was in June 2020. The timing was significant because it was the same month that production of the car came to an end in Leipzig. The i8 had started life six years earlier in astonishingly high demand; partly driven by exemption from the London congestion charge, it promptly sold out in the UK. But by the end demand had slackened to the extent that it resembled a burst balloon. The year-old car we highlighted had 125 miles on the clock - and £50,000 knocked off the asking price. 

At the time, we were inclined to ponder just how low used values would go. But as is often the case when no new stock is appearing at the top of the funnel, the wildly steep angle of the depreciation has flattened a tiny bit. Sure, you could buy an older, less desirable coupe for £40k when cast an eye over the market last time around, and now you get one for just north of £30k. But well-kept examples of the Roadster are still above £50k. 

Obviously in the grand scheme of things that’s still a decidedly chunky amount of money to have evaporated - let’s not forget that the i8 Roadster launched in 2018 as a £124,645 model, and had you spent that much on an early 992-generation Porsche 911, there’s no chance it would only be paying you back £50k now. But back in 2020 we lamented that, for all its faults, the used values weren’t taking into account the idea that the i8 was undeniably ‘a bold, innovative, original and desirable take on the hybrid sports car, the kind of which we hadn't seen before and probably won't again’ and should be remembered as such. 

To suggest that the market has come around to that way of thinking is optimistic to the point of daft when you can have a very lovely looking one in E-Copper for under half the price it was when brand new. Nevertheless, when there is also one at a franchise dealer, with just 766 miles recorded, for £99,850, you do wonder if the worm is finally threatening to turn. Of course, there can be no question whatsoever that the i8, with its three-cylinder petrol engine and charmingly small 11.6kWh battery, is a product of its time - but it is also arguably among the landmark BMWs of the past decade. And that’s traditionally a description that makes cars exceptionally collectable. 

To that point - and neatly positioned between the two cars mentioned above - here’s a prime contender for preservation. Perhaps Sophisto grey metallic is not the ideal colour to show off one of BMW’s most audacious styling efforts, but the paint is said to be flawless (as it should be after only enduring 861 miles). Being a February 2020 car puts it right at the end of the production run, too - and while it won’t have been among the very last examples (the final 18 were treated to a unique paint job), it is certainly within touching distance. 

But is it worth £81,995? According to the vendor, which is evidently very familiar with the car and its previous owner, it was bought new for £127,105. So you’re still getting £45k off for a Roadster that ought to be virtually no different to when it left Leipzig. But with so many other perfectly worthy examples available for an additional £20k saving, the only reason for doing so is if you think the i8 will eventually make good on its trailblazing reputation and do the sort of about-face that sees it become a highly sought after model with values to match. And if you already do think that, how long do you think it will take? And would you care to place a wager? 


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SR

Original Poster:

238 posts

206 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Stunning looking thing! Never driven one so can’t comment on the driving dynamics but would be very interested to hear owner’s comments.

GTRene

16,570 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th April
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they do still look good, I never drove one, will i ever buy one? no idea, time will tell.

for now I mostly only think of classic cars (sportive) or super lightweight ala Donkervoort D8 GTO-RS or 40 or JD70 or their individual series, all those have the audi 5 cill around 400hp and around 700kg some less.

but... BMW made a nice car for what it is with the i8

Dombilano

1,141 posts

56 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I don't get this, the only reason it's £82k is the mileage, similar age with 12k miles are sub £60k, so use it and it will deprecate massively back to normal values.
And why would you not use it, its never gonna be a super rare "investment" is it, its a sports car from a mainstream manufacturer, so save the £20k+ and buy loads of crypto instead.

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th April
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It amazes me used I8's in general are worth so much money. We recently bought a mini countryman SE which is basically the same tech (think it has very similar engine, a smaller motor and battery), however these are less desirable than the regular mini's and reflected in the fact they are the cheapest model you could buy, as the tech is considered out dated. Most think it the worst of both EV and ICE, I would have guessed these have little appeal in the current market, not appealing to the electric car or ICE buyers.

samoht

5,723 posts

147 months

Wednesday 17th April
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No, this is a BMW i8 worth talking about...

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

EV8

43 posts

4 months

Wednesday 17th April
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A couple of years ago I was really torn between i8 and R8... But 3 cylinders and skinny tires made the choice... Nice car anyway....

Benzinaio

88 posts

3 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Shame they had to put skinny tyres on them to achieve the range figures.
First thing AC Sphincter (sorry, couldn't help myself) did was to increase the tyre width in order to make them look and drive better.
At the expense of mpg of course, there by negating the point of buying a hybrid.
Also, last weeks EV tech is old tech. I wouldn't want to be given back the PC I was using two years ago!
They do look OK though.

Edited by Benzinaio on Wednesday 17th April 22:57

CG2020UK

1,506 posts

41 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Love the look but it’s a bit damp to drive.

Just buy an M2, M3, M4 or M5 they are just better in every way.

Innovative and brave from BMW but not really a drivers car and ultimately not really good at anything.

Rerelease it as full EV and it would be brilliant.

Mr Tidy

22,382 posts

128 months

Wednesday 17th April
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I've always thought they looked fantastic, although I preferred the Coupe.

But I really couldn't get that excited about a car that looked so good fitted with just a 3-cylinder turbo engine. Why didn't they make a proper one with an S65 or S85 engine?

nickpan

583 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Sold mine as not practical enough to be a GT car yet not fun enough to be a weekend sports car so ended up being a very expensive commuter that was a PITA to get in and out of in a suit.


cerb4.5lee

30,687 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th April
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Mr Tidy said:
I've always thought they looked fantastic, although I preferred the Coupe.

But I really couldn't get that excited about a car that looked so good fitted with just a 3-cylinder turbo engine. Why didn't they make a proper one with an S65 or S85 engine?
I like the Roadster, however I'm in your camp with everything else though for sure. thumbup

cerb4.5lee

30,687 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th April
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nickpan said:
Sold mine as not practical enough to be a GT car yet not fun enough to be a weekend sports car so ended up being a very expensive commuter that was a PITA to get in and out of in a suit.
I do love how much of a head turner they are though, and BMW nailed the shape for me for sure. cool

cerb4.5lee

30,687 posts

181 months

Wednesday 17th April
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CG2020UK said:
Rerelease it as full EV and it would be brilliant.
Behave, and wash your mouth out! hehe

sidesauce

2,479 posts

219 months

Thursday 18th April
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mikey P 500 said:
It amazes me used I8's in general are worth so much money. We recently bought a mini countryman SE which is basically the same tech (think it has very similar engine, a smaller motor and battery), however these are less desirable than the regular mini's and reflected in the fact they are the cheapest model you could buy, as the tech is considered out dated. Most think it the worst of both EV and ICE, I would have guessed these have little appeal in the current market, not appealing to the electric car or ICE buyers.
BMW really pushed the boat out with that that carbon fibre tub; that was NOT cheap to manufacture so no, it really doesn't have the same tech as the Mini, at all. Not to mention the i8 weighs 1485kgs vs that lard-arse 1735kgs Countryman you own.

In fact, name another 4 seat, mid-engined hybrid built using a carbon-fibre tub that cost anywhere close to £110k new.

Edited by sidesauce on Thursday 18th April 00:19

GTRene

16,570 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th April
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cerb4.5lee said:
CG2020UK said:
Rerelease it as full EV and it would be brilliant.
Behave, and wash your mouth out! hehe
hehe

or... if they want to keep a lot EV on it, make it a fast EV with a good range extender, so that you wont need to load it elsewhere? no idea if thats possible though, I guess but...

or wait till they give the next generation better EV sort like option in which it does not need to reload but all is in the system? all in one without being bulkie, say like using a small nuclear engine :-) meaning a good power something.

or... for the fans when the batteries etc get old, restore them with a great V8 and throw away the EV st, or use the older batterie for house back up energie when you have solar panels, so you can life of-grid :-)

wistec1

281 posts

42 months

Thursday 18th April
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It will never be an icon bmw such as the M3 CLS or the 1M. As long as the CEO of BMW has a hole in their arse this is going to be one of the many depreciating BMW's. It's only the low miles that may ( and it's a big may) keep this i8 in a bubble. Drive it and you risk a pop and bang. On another note I've been waiting for someone with plenty of engineering savvy and a reputable name behind them to drop a proper M ice transplant into one of these. Yes I know it bdizes the EV concept and it's one which I support at any cost but it would then and only then be a proper BMW. What we have here is a 3cyl battery carrier. Just buy a proper M car

Edited by wistec1 on Thursday 18th April 00:45

Numpty with honours

208 posts

84 months

Thursday 18th April
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mikey P 500 said:
It amazes me used I8's in general are worth so much money. We recently bought a mini countryman SE which is basically the same tech (think it has very similar engine, a smaller motor and battery), however these are less desirable than the regular mini's and reflected in the fact they are the cheapest model you could buy, as the tech is considered out dated. Most think it the worst of both EV and ICE, I would have guessed these have little appeal in the current market, not appealing to the electric car or ICE buyers.
I bought mine (non roadster) as an ex demo paying list in March 2015, within 12 months and 10k miles it was circa £65k and within 3 years around £40k ie by about 2018 with I would guess 40k miles . From then on its depreciation became a lot more dignified . There is solid demand for them, they have a very good reliability, tyres a bit expensive as they are an unusual size, servicing costs ok . The key thing is that its all about efficiency . 0 - 60 in 4.4 sec top speed around 150 yet in eco pro on a long run driving sedately 45mpg is possible. I have done around 96k and I like it. Mine is worth around £22.5K I enjoy driving it, I am so familiar with all the controls, its not super precious its like a comfortable pair of old shoes . In sport mode it moves !

Still think from the side, it still one of the best looking cars, a bit too much going on when looking at the rear and the relatively thin tyres ( for efficiency) do not give it gravitas and the front a tad dated now - but then the car is almost 10 yrs old

Chestrockwell

2,629 posts

158 months

Thursday 18th April
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I always forget these exist!

I used to wonder what the M version would be like but then I realized, anything they do would defeat the purpose of the car.

In terms of the future values, I think the main thing holding the prices of these back from sky rocketing is the tech and engine.

20 years from now, would you rather have this as your garage queen that you take out every now and then or a! E46 330Ci manual coupe….not even the M3 or Z4M, just a standard 330ci

Wren-went

795 posts

39 months

Thursday 18th April
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Promised myself an i8 preferably Coupe think they are the nearest I'll get too a Supercar while not been a Supercar and if not been driven hard are quite reasonable to run.due to hybrid power train.

Whenever I see an i8 particularly if parked up I always have a good luck round it , if I see likes of any 911 I don't .

200Plus Club

10,771 posts

279 months

Thursday 18th April
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They look great when you see one at car meets, then sound absolutely dire as they roll away. Interesting and unusual car but never felt the need to consider owning one.