RE: Fibreglass Ferrari 308 GTB 'Vetroresina' for sale

RE: Fibreglass Ferrari 308 GTB 'Vetroresina' for sale

Monday 22nd April

Fibreglass Ferrari 308 GTB 'Vetroresina' for sale

A factory-produced, plastic-bodied Ferrari sounds sacrilegious, but here's why it definitely isn't...


Fibreglass: the wonder material that allowed car designers to put their wildest creations into production without countless compromises to keep costs down. Glass-reinforced plastic is so cheap and so (relatively) easy to work with that it’s been a staple of the British sports car for over half a century. Without it, the Lotus Elise may not have been the light, affordable sports car that we all know and adore, nor would we have the radical looks of the TVR Sagaris and Tuscan. Or the Tamora. Or the T350. 

That being said, there’s still a bit of stigma around cars with plastic bodies. While it’s light and easy to mould into all sorts of shapes, its greatest advantage is that it is cheap to produce. That’s perfect for homemade heroes based around a spaceframe chassis, less so for high-end supercars -  because nothing kills the mood quite like cost-cutting. True, fibreglass was a bit more prevalent in the days before carbon fibre, which is why we have plastic fantastics such as the BMW M1 and Ford RS200. But you’d never see it on anything exotic like, say, a Ferrari.

Unless said Ferrari is a 308 GTB ‘Vetroresina’ like the one we have here. The thought of a plastic Ferrari seems sacrilegious, especially one of this vintage where just looking at it conjures images of its bodywork being beaten into shape by moustachioed mechanics in a dark, oil-stained workshop. But the Vetroresina (Italian for fibreglass) was never intended to be a budget Ferrari - at least not outwardly - rather the glass-reinforced plastic Scaglietti bodywork was introduced to keep weight as low as possible. And given that the 308 was in incredibly high demand following the lacklustre Dino GT4, the model’s fibreglass body allowed Ferrari to get cars into the hands of customers faster.  

All fixed-roof 308s were assembled with fibreglass bodies when the model arrived in 1975. It was a featherweight at just 1,050kg and looked every bit as glitzy as a Ferrari should, but fibreglass was still viewed as a cheap material in the mid-70s and the plastic-bodied sports car quickly fell out of fashion. Ferrari responded with a more conventional steel-bodied 308 in 1977, which reignited demand for the entry-level V8 sports car but that in turn came with a hefty 150kg penalty. A move from a dry to wet sump in 1981 meant most steel-bodied cars weren’t as powerful as the plastic counterparts either, with Vetroresinas developing an extra 10hp at 255hp.

So the Vetroresinas were better to drive and more powerful than most of their steel counterparts - and, because they were plastic, were also less susceptible to rust. Not totally immune of course, it’s still a '70s Ferrari underneath its plastic skin, but at least you won’t find yourself endlessly chasing bubbling bodywork. Factor in its rarity (only 808 Vetroresinas vs the thousands of steel-bodied GTS and GTBs), and it’s little wonder that the version buyers lamented for feeling cheap is now one of the most sought 308s in collector circles.

What makes this example extra special is that it’s one of only 154 right-hand-drive cars built for the UK market. A late one at that, too, as the car was first registered in 1977, just before the introduction of the steel model, and has changed hands four times in the subsequent 47 years. That included a spell in dry storage between 1997 and 2013, though since then it’s undergone some restoration work including replacement springs and dampers, refurbished suspension and brakes, and new hoses. The seller wants £129,995 for it, which just goes to show the days of the budget 308 are long gone. A steel body with a similar mileage will still set you back six figures, just like this stunning 1978 GTB in green, which means you’ve got a pretty simple decision to make: metal or plastic?


See the original advert here

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Augustus Windsock

Original Poster:

3,370 posts

156 months

Monday 22nd April
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I was just looking at a blue steel-bodied 308GTS that’s on PH for £75k and personally I don’t see the ‘value’ in paying an extra £55k for the vetroresina version featured here.
I’m sure marque officianados will argue that it’s the original and purest form of 308, and to them it may well be worth the extra £££ for the cachet, but I couldn’t justify it.
Still, for me the 308 / 328 are the zenith of Ferrari styling of the ‘modern era’, nothing else comes close in terms of being ‘just so’ right’, it is just the right size with just the right amount of performance, even today.

Leithen

10,931 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd April
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No one called them Vetroresina's when they were made. Instead owners lived in fear of any body repair.

Robertb

1,462 posts

239 months

Monday 22nd April
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The fit on the front lid looks suspect, or are they all like that?

Anyhow, says 'sale agreed' on the dealer website so someone liked it.

jaacck

191 posts

141 months

Monday 22nd April
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Suprised it hasnt been in a small accident and written itself off by now

Dapster

6,967 posts

181 months

Monday 22nd April
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They do look lovely don't they? Only improvement would be the deeper front spoiler - without which I think it has off-roader ground clearance at the front



Murph7355

37,758 posts

257 months

Monday 22nd April
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Augustus Windsock said:
... it is just the right size...
For an oompa loompa.

I love these. They are the car that really fired my love of exotics... Sadly I was too big when the time arrived when I could afford one.

Fortunately the F355 can take grown up sized people and is just as pretty. Goes a lot quicker too smile


Hilts

4,392 posts

283 months

Monday 22nd April
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I know it's a bit petty but a 308 needs a Quad exhaust to complete the look. The single pipe lets it down imo.

Maybe that's due to when I grew up anything with 4 exhaust pipes was really special eg Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari


WPA

8,839 posts

115 months

Monday 22nd April
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Hilts said:
I know it's a bit petty but a 308 needs a Quad exhaust to complete the look. The single pipe lets it down imo.

Maybe that's due to when I grew up anything with 4 exhaust pipes was really special eg Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari

All early cars had a single pipe.

if I am honest I prefer the green one linked in the advert.


yme402

389 posts

103 months

Monday 22nd April
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What is it about Italians and their ability to make anything mundane sound exotic? “Vetroresina” sounds such a sexy name and befits a Ferrari. When spoken in English, “Fibre Glass” conjures up images of an Escort-based kit car, or at best a Reliant Scimitar.

By the way…did you know Princess Anne has a Scimitar?

seefarr

1,470 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd April
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Pistonheads said:
A factory-produced, plastic-bodied Ferrari sounds sacrilegious, but here's why it definitely isn't...
..is it because it has the magical yellow donkey on the front and so everything about it is perfectly magical? biglaugh

I believe there one of these on Tyrrell's with perfect bodywork and a chassis held together with nothing but rust and Italian prayers. It was scary seeing how much of it was missing!


Leithen

10,931 posts

268 months

Monday 22nd April
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seefarr said:
..is it because it has the magical yellow donkey on the front and so everything about it is perfectly magical? biglaugh

I believe there one of these on Tyrrell's with perfect bodywork and a chassis held together with nothing but rust and Italian prayers. It was scary seeing how much of it was missing!
That was scary.

Arsecati

2,314 posts

118 months

Monday 22nd April
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Hilts said:
I know it's a bit petty but a 308 needs a Quad exhaust to complete the look. The single pipe lets it down imo.

Maybe that's due to when I grew up anything with 4 exhaust pipes was really special eg Lamborghini, Maserati, Ferrari

If you look at that picture again, you'll see that that 4 pipe exhaust system is aftermarket: look to the left where the gap is still there from the original single pipe exhaust.

pbe624

170 posts

136 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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My search for a 308 started about 15 years ago... when prices were still 'normal', i.e. you could find a good original EU version for around 40,000 - 45,000 EUR (mainland EU).

I had a look at a fibreglass version for sale in decent shape and the owner was asking 50,000 EUR, which I found a bit steep :-)
As I wanted a GTS, I did not buy it. Later on bought a 328GTS to start with and then had 3 308GTS QV models after that until I found the 'right' one...

Go forward a few years and I sold it as not being driven much and just taking up space and annual servce costs... .

Go forward to today and the 'good' ones (EU version with history and originality) are beyond 80,000 EUR so no longer a common man's Ferrari... . Maybe we need another crisis to bring down prices again...

Angelo1985

242 posts

27 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Wow, I didn’t know that these existed! Not made of vetroresina

One of the best looking Ferrari of all times.

JJJ.

1,277 posts

16 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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A great looking car no matter the version. I even remember where I saw my first one.

Dapster

6,967 posts

181 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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WPA said:
if I am honest I prefer the green one linked in the advert.

Did a bit of digging - if I were to go green, it would be this shade - never seen one in this colour before, looks amazing!


WPA

8,839 posts

115 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Dapster said:
WPA said:
if I am honest I prefer the green one linked in the advert.

Did a bit of digging - if I were to go green, it would be this shade - never seen one in this colour before, looks amazing!

That is nice.

Slippydiff

14,850 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Leithen said:
seefarr said:
..is it because it has the magical yellow donkey on the front and so everything about it is perfectly magical? biglaugh

I believe there one of these on Tyrrell's with perfect bodywork and a chassis held together with nothing but rust and Italian prayers. It was scary seeing how much of it was missing!
That was scary.
Correct, I went to IT’s place to view it mid restoration. It completely changed my perspective of the 308 (and the Muira that I was shown).

There’s various discussions on Fchat about the supposed weight reduction the Vetroresina benefitted from, and the figure was closer to 40-50kg less than the steel bodied cars, not 150kg …

As for the suggestion they were made from glassfibre for weight reduction, apparently so concerned were Ferrari with the fibreglass panels cracking, they made them incredibly thick, and thus in turn, incredibly heavy, and they still cracked and crazed anyway…

The use of fibreglass was more to do with tooling costs, and the need to get the cars into production quickly apparently.

They are stunning looking cars, but the build quality was atrocious.





Cacatous

3,163 posts

274 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Dapster said:
Did a bit of digging - if I were to go green, it would be this shade - never seen one in this colour before, looks amazing!

I could go a 550 Maranello with cream interior in that colour. Beautiful.

Not that I can afford that or any Ferrari but the pedal offset looks horrific in the 308, especially to a tall person like me!

Bonefish Blues

26,805 posts

224 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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WPA said:
Dapster said:
WPA said:
if I am honest I prefer the green one linked in the advert.

Did a bit of digging - if I were to go green, it would be this shade - never seen one in this colour before, looks amazing!

That is nice.
What's with their protruding bottom lips - was that factory?