RE: First official look at new Range Rover Electric

RE: First official look at new Range Rover Electric

Tuesday 23rd April

First official look at new Range Rover Electric

The quietest and most refined Range Rover 'ever made' is nearly here - and it looks reassuringly familiar


Land Rover hasn’t wasted any time with camouflaging its very latest prototype. After all, what you can’t see is more important than what you can when it comes to the new Range Rover Electric, the manufacturer’s first fully-fledged EV. Built on the existing platform, we already knew that the newcomer would look very much like the current Range Rover; Land Rover’s all-black test cars suggest that, details and badges and flaps aside, we might struggle to tell the difference between combustion, hybrid and battery-powered derivatives. 

Staying true to ‘its modernist design language’ is obviously meant to be part of the appeal. People who buy Range Rovers aren’t typically shy or reticent about the decision - and the 16,000 indications of interest it claimed to have received back in February points to significant support for the concept of one that is essentially the same, albeit powered by electricity exclusively. At any rate, this is the EV that Land Rover seems intent on building first. 

“[A] Range Rover with electric power – means customary Range Rover luxury, refinement and capability plus near-silent fully electric propulsion; with effortlessly smooth and relaxed journeys,” said Thomas Mueller, Executive Director, Product Engineering. “To ensure we leave no stone uncovered, we are well underway with our physical testing and development programme, all designed at pushing Range Rover Electric to the extremes to ensure its capability remains unparalleled when it reaches you.”

Of course, predictably grandiose claims made for its refinement levels aside, the truth is that the car is very different underneath, and with a new, in-house developed all-electric propulsion system to incorporate, it will have no doubt proved a challenge both to perfect and to test - especially with the off-road ‘capabilities’ Land Rover continues to view as sacrosanct. Hence the understandable fuss it is making of otherwise conventional testing, including trips to 50-degree deserts in the Middle East, and, inevitably, -40 degrees inside the Arctic Circle. 

As you might expect, particular attention has been paid to battery performance (which will be supplied by a third party until JLR eventually switches to its own production) and the new Electric Drive Unit that comprises the transmission, electric motor and power electronics. Beyond the requirements of basic functioning in sub-zero temperatures, Land Rover says the frozen lakes of Sweden have again provided the perfect backdrop for its engineers to test the Range Rover Electric’s ability to ‘exceed its already renowned performance on low-grip surfaces’. 

The precise technical detail of how the EDUs are deployed (and the batteries configured) remains under wraps, though it does confirm that the new model ‘distributes the wheel slip management task directly to each individual electric drive control unit’ rather than using a traditional traction management system overseen by the ABS. Thanks to its own software code, Land Rover reckons it can reduce the torque reaction time at each wheel ‘from around 100 milliseconds, to as little as a 1 millisecond’. 

Whether or not that means there is one EDU per wheel is not made clear (at minimum there will be one assigned to each axle) although the manufacturer insists that by working ‘in harmony’ with the other stability and chassis systems, it has worked to significantly enhance the Range Rover driving experience. We’d wager that much time and energy has been spent on polishing the relationship between the three as Land Rover approaches the final stages of what it has previously described as ‘one of [its] most rigorous engineering sign-off programmes ever’. And with the electric G-Class set to be unveiled later this week, the stakes for its success couldn't be higher. We look forward to learning all about it in the coming months. Very definitely we're not the only ones. 


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Turini

Original Poster:

419 posts

167 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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It will be horrendously expensive but as it’s still obviously a Range Rover it will come down to buyer preference as to which model they choose. For those who want/need an EV the purchasing choice will be their criteria but they’ll still be getting an RR.

Be good to know how it performs off road - not that many will be taken into the mud - as I’d expect it’s EV characteristics to suit the vehicle

Motormouth88

246 posts

61 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Good luck getting an efficient charge in those conditions

oilit

2,632 posts

179 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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From what I’ve heard good luck getting an insurance quote

T1berious

2,264 posts

156 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Wonder if they'll keep the same (or similar) FFRR wading depth?

I had to go through some pretty deep water recently in an EV and had a real clench moment!

I'm guessing they'll be using a heat pump to get the battery to a decent temp to facilitate charging in sub zero conditions. Can't imagine a BEV at this price point not having one to be honest.

Amanitin

423 posts

138 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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don't recall anyone in the industry pulling off a successful mass market ICE platform based EV.
They'd might as well just skipped this transition step altogether.

Puddenchucker

4,104 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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T1berious said:
Wonder if they'll keep the same (or similar) FFRR wading depth?

I had to go through some pretty deep water recently in an EV and had a real clench moment!

I'm guessing they'll be using a heat pump to get the battery to a decent temp to facilitate charging in sub zero conditions. Can't imagine a BEV at this price point not having one to be honest.
I can't see why the wading depth wouldn't be similar to petrol/diesel engined versions. Just need to ensure the electrical/electronic components have a suitable IP rating. And with an electric motor you don't have to worry about sucking in water and hydrolocking the engine or comtaminating fuel in the tank.
As for the cold temps, even ICE engines can struggle; requiring engine block heaters and having issues with frozen fuel. Lead-acid batteries for the starter aren't immune to the cold either.

biggbn

23,429 posts

221 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Perfect type of car for electrification. Should be serene.

kambites

67,587 posts

222 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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T1berious said:
Wonder if they'll keep the same (or similar) FFRR wading depth?
Depending on what limits the ICE version, the EV should be the same or better since there's no risk of hydrolock. Assuming it's properly built, the EV should have the same wading depth as an ICE car with a snorkel.

Some manufacturers don't bother to certify their high-voltage electical systems for submersion, but it would be stupid if Land Rover don't (and indeed they already do for their hybrids).

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 23 April 07:12

Robertb

1,462 posts

239 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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biggbn said:
Perfect type of car for electrification. Should be serene.
Agreed, and perfect for the urban environments nine tenths of them end up in.

Bobupndown

1,814 posts

44 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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What is the starting price going to be....

plfrench

2,386 posts

269 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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T1berious said:
Wonder if they'll keep the same (or similar) FFRR wading depth?

I had to go through some pretty deep water recently in an EV and had a real clench moment!

I'm guessing they'll be using a heat pump to get the battery to a decent temp to facilitate charging in sub zero conditions. Can't imagine a BEV at this price point not having one to be honest.
850mm according to EVO, so slightly less than other FF Range Rovers still decent though.

https://www.evo.co.uk/land-rover/range-rover/20637...

Rostyle

45 posts

76 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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You know that classic scene in Jaws when Brody says " you're gonna need a bigger boat" , I can just imagine the breakdown recovery companies saying " we are gonna need a bigger truck" !

chickensoup

25 posts

13 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Am sure it will have enough range for central london driving, plus one way to the weekend pad
Weight and price will be interesting

ChocolateFrog

25,464 posts

174 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Rostyle said:
You know that classic scene in Jaws when Brody says " you're gonna need a bigger boat" , I can just imagine the breakdown recovery companies saying " we are gonna need a bigger truck" !
I'm guessing the weight will start with a 3.

Kipsrs

437 posts

50 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I would think, perfect for the urbanites to take little Johnny to school in!

SDK

895 posts

254 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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I wonder if Harry Metcalfe will be complaining about this one ?!

It'll be heavier and less efficient than all of the previous EV's he's ripped apart for being just that. Maybe the backhander from JLR will need to be increased blabla

Familymad

673 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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oilit said:
From what I’ve heard good luck getting an insurance quote
That

With EV insurance already double ICE, this added to the RR insurance tax will make it for super rich only. I do think it will de value by half quicker than an ICE one so maybe 1st and 2nd year bargains…

AmazingGrace

67 posts

5 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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T1berious said:
Wonder if they'll keep the same (or similar) FFRR wading depth?

I had to go through some pretty deep water recently in an EV and had a real clench moment!

I'm guessing they'll be using a heat pump to get the battery to a decent temp to facilitate charging in sub zero conditions. Can't imagine a BEV at this price point not having one to be honest.
Forgive my ignorance. But what is FFRR?
Full Fat Range Rover?
For Fiery powerfully built directors Range Rover?
For powering through my Fiefdom Range Rover?

Familymad

673 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Full Fat

RR Sport is the Diet Coke version not full fat…

Gastons_Revenge

87 posts

5 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Can't decide whether the replacement of the engine with electric motors will make it more reliable, or if the typical JLR electrical gremlins will leave it with the same poor reliability as the ICE line up biggrin