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I heard of a Chimaera that had rolled near Uxbridge last night. Ambulance in attendance. I sincerely hope the occupants weren't seriously injured.
It's got me thinking about roll bars again.
For anyone that's interested the following companies will install them (not a comprehensive list, just the ones I can think of right now).
www.peninsulauto.co.uk
www.t-v-r-services.co.uk
www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk
If any other companies fit them then please feel free to mention yourselves here.
It's got me thinking about roll bars again.
For anyone that's interested the following companies will install them (not a comprehensive list, just the ones I can think of right now).
www.peninsulauto.co.uk
www.t-v-r-services.co.uk
www.fernhurst-tvr.co.uk
If any other companies fit them then please feel free to mention yourselves here.
After the earlier incident this year, I have a T-v-R-services bar on order.... 6 week delivery though ( somthing to do with shorty being in Daytona!!)
The real bugger is though that the wifey doesnt now like me driving the car till i get it fitted !!!! so its her wrath or take the scabby old transit ....
The real bugger is though that the wifey doesnt now like me driving the car till i get it fitted !!!! so its her wrath or take the scabby old transit ....
Excuse my ignorance here but why do you want to fit a rear roll bar when TVR doesn't consider it necessary?
I can understand if you're using your TVR for motorsport but for general road use then what's the need?
Are the 2 struts for rear of the roof prone to giving way?
If they do is the roll bar in the windscreen too low?
Is it mainly tall drivers that benefit from a rear roll bar?
Cheers.... Andrew
I can understand if you're using your TVR for motorsport but for general road use then what's the need?
Are the 2 struts for rear of the roof prone to giving way?
If they do is the roll bar in the windscreen too low?
Is it mainly tall drivers that benefit from a rear roll bar?
Cheers.... Andrew
Go to www.t-v-r-services.co.uk and click on "roll bar". Look at the photo of the Griff and I think it will answer your question. The driver survived by hugging the transmission tunnel. He should have bought a lottery ticket that day as he was so lucky.
Steve
>> Edited by shpub on Tuesday 28th January 11:35
Steve
>> Edited by shpub on Tuesday 28th January 11:35
alt said: Excuse my ignorance here but why do you want to fit a rear roll bar when TVR doesn't consider it necessary?
I can understand if you're using your TVR for motorsport but for general road use then what's the need?
Are the 2 struts for rear of the roof prone to giving way?
If they do is the roll bar in the windscreen too low?
Is it mainly tall drivers that benefit from a rear roll bar?
Cheers.... Andrew
The Griff and Chim dont have the windscreen roll bar thing and I dont think the rear struts could support the weight of the passenger let alone the car...
Matt.
Roll bar in the windscreen on a chim / griff thats a laugh the windscreen frame is just there for somthing to stick the glass to...
The rear hood frame is just that not a roll bar... although i do think marcus gently rolled his S on to its roof, ( very low speed) and the roof held !!! but i wouldnt rely on it.....
The rear hood frame is just that not a roll bar... although i do think marcus gently rolled his S on to its roof, ( very low speed) and the roof held !!! but i wouldnt rely on it.....
Looking at that photo, surely roll bars are near enough essential?! Is there no way of fitting them on the Tamora? The Chim also has a roof that folds down but roll bars can be fitted- does the Chim have more clearance? Presumably the frame around the windscreen of the Tamora would not protect in the event of a similar accident.
That's pretty scary.... I saw a wedge rolled once and it wasn't pretty..
After all the incidents recently I have been discussing this with quite a few people,(including my concerned Mother) and if I wasn't in a Tuscan/Cerb/Tamora or T350C I must admit I would be having a rollbar fitted...
The lack of any side impact protection has always concerned me in the older cars, and I was pleasantly suprised and happy when I saw my old Tamora being built with a roll over bar (in the windscreen) and side bars in the doors..
Looking at the picture above, it's certainly something worth looking at...
Tam Girl said: Looking at that photo, surely roll bars are near enough essential?! Is there no way of fitting them on the Tamora? The Chim also has a roof that folds down but roll bars can be fitted- does the Chim have more clearance? Presumably the frame around the windscreen of the Tamora would not protect in the event of a similar accident.
There is a substantial roll bar in the Tamora windscreen, Tam girl. Ask TVR, I have some photos somewhere that show it perfectly. I also know that one of the dealers rolled their demo last year and both the occupants walked away...I think you'll find it's legislation to fit one nowdays whereas it wasn't when the Griff/Chim were released...
Hm. Last week I looked into getting a full rollcage fitted to my Griff, and this pic has simply underlined the fact that I've made the right decision to go ahead. Might do it now though rather than waiting until next winter. It'd be nice to at least have a chance of walking away if it rolls.
Hope the Uxbridge person (+ passenger) were okay...
Hope the Uxbridge person (+ passenger) were okay...
Before anyone starts criticising TVR too much, I have seen cars with supposed roll-over bars fitted that have crushed and seriously injured the occupants. Stuff like Saabs and older BMW's are not good (the roll-over bar is in the front screen) as any momentum will put the pressure in the wrong place and force them to crush...
IMHO something like an aftermarket one like RollCentre's or a Tower View (the same really) is better. Manufactured to a higher standard and meets with the equivalent requirements... But not everyone needs one and for the extra £800 or so fitted, well worth it...
Mind you, anyone see the video footage of the Merc SL500 having a blowout on a german autobaun? Flips it and rolls loads of times. Car completely wiped out but the chap walks away.... and it all happened at 100+. It was one of those new flip up automatically ones - seems like technology worked then....
Cheers,
Paul
IMHO something like an aftermarket one like RollCentre's or a Tower View (the same really) is better. Manufactured to a higher standard and meets with the equivalent requirements... But not everyone needs one and for the extra £800 or so fitted, well worth it...
Mind you, anyone see the video footage of the Merc SL500 having a blowout on a german autobaun? Flips it and rolls loads of times. Car completely wiped out but the chap walks away.... and it all happened at 100+. It was one of those new flip up automatically ones - seems like technology worked then....
Cheers,
Paul
) I think a roll bar for the Chimaera is a very sensible idea, I know only too well how it's possible to loose this cars when braking quickly in a straight line! (yes i've done it too!) all you need then is a good kerb and over it goes
take a look at this thread: What a dream convoy this afternoon [url]www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=27514&f=13&h=0[/url]
the Yellow Chim has a very neat double hoop roll bar set up which was well fitted and doesn't spoil the look of the car - it might even enhance it!
simon p
take a look at this thread: What a dream convoy this afternoon [url]www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=27514&f=13&h=0[/url]
the Yellow Chim has a very neat double hoop roll bar set up which was well fitted and doesn't spoil the look of the car - it might even enhance it!
simon p
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